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Re: RE: Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby Sporkin » Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:49 pm

No matter how it's sliced, it's fixed slots waiting to be filled. My experience through it has been that key holders are nigh untouchable, and high performing new comers will find the performance vs reward ratio unsatisfying whilst not terrible.

x9200 wrote:
DrScrumMaster wrote:
Sporkin wrote:stacked ranking


That's still used!?

It's not a classical stack ranking. It is heavily evidence based.

@Sporkin, asking about the system will result in an answer that is perfectly convincing as reasonable. There are problems with the system, but they are somewhere else.




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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby mkram » Thu, 20 Oct 2016 12:09 am

x9200 wrote:
DrScrumMaster wrote:
Sporkin wrote:stacked ranking


That's still used!?

It's not a classical stack ranking. It is heavily evidence based.

@Sporkin, asking about the system will result in an answer that is perfectly convincing as reasonable. There are problems with the system, but they are somewhere else.


Ah! this is something new I haven't thought about!

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby calugaruvaxile » Thu, 20 Oct 2016 6:32 am

mkram wrote:Hi calugaruvaxile,

It is really comforting to know to learn the experience of someone in the same shoes. I was unsure if it will be unrealistic if more housing allowance and kids education support is sought. I will ask to revise their offer and see if they can take the realities into account.


you can't ask anything. those numbers are fixed. the "core salary" is payed by the institute (just curious, which one?) but the allowances are paid by a certain gov't agency specialized in bringing in foreign talents (btw, beware of these words, they mean something bad nowadays). the allowances are a fixed sum. non-negotiable.

the core salary is "by grid". i will say, you probably got something like 5.3k to 5.7k. the annual increment is about sgd120-240 and doesn't have much to do with your performances

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Re: RE: Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby calugaruvaxile » Thu, 20 Oct 2016 6:38 am

Sporkin wrote:No matter how it's sliced, it's fixed slots waiting to be filled. My experience through it has been that key holders are nigh untouchable, and high performing new comers will find the performance vs reward ratio unsatisfying whilst not terrible.
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if you are politically skilled you can get a comfy place. spoiler alert: you need to walk over "dead" bodies to achieve that. unfortunately, even higher positions (unless you are not part of the local political system) are quite badly paid. so in the end, it's not worthy

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Re: RE: Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby x9200 » Thu, 20 Oct 2016 7:14 am

Sporkin wrote:No matter how it's sliced, it's fixed slots waiting to be filled. My experience through it has been that key holders are nigh untouchable, and high performing new comers will find the performance vs reward ratio unsatisfying whilst not terrible.

x9200 wrote:
DrScrumMaster wrote:
That's still used!?

It's not a classical stack ranking. It is heavily evidence based.

@Sporkin, asking about the system will result in an answer that is perfectly convincing as reasonable. There are problems with the system, but they are somewhere else.

I know enough newcomers who are over rewarded for the crap they produce. This is a corpo, a specific corpo but still a corpo. A corpo means, you need to make yourself to fit or your rating will suffer (leaving aside what one may perceive as high performing).

On top of this, there is rather significant variation between the institutes and individual research groups.

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Re: RE: Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby mkram » Thu, 20 Oct 2016 5:45 pm

x9200 wrote:
Sporkin wrote:No matter how it's sliced, it's fixed slots waiting to be filled. My experience through it has been that key holders are nigh untouchable, and high performing new comers will find the performance vs reward ratio unsatisfying whilst not terrible.

x9200 wrote:It's not a classical stack ranking. It is heavily evidence based.

@Sporkin, asking about the system will result in an answer that is perfectly convincing as reasonable. There are problems with the system, but they are somewhere else.

I know enough newcomers who are over rewarded for the crap they produce. This is a corpo, a specific corpo but still a corpo. A corpo means, you need to make yourself to fit or your rating will suffer (leaving aside what one may perceive as high performing).

On top of this, there is rather significant variation between the institutes and individual research groups.


It is interesting to learn that people have strong opinions about newcomers! However, I am new to Singapore, but do have some experience and some stars on my shoulder.

Nonetheless, the information regarding performance evaluations is indeed educating about the new place. One should know & understand the cultural differences and systems, whatever they are, at the new workplace. I do agree that at the end it is all about integration at the workplace that is important.


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