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ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby mkram » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 5:29 am

Hi all,

I have been offered a position at ASTAR as Scientist II. I have 6 yrs of research experience after PhD (both in Western Europe), and good publication record in high impact journals. I will be moving from Western Europe. I am married and have a school going kid.

I have been offered a maximum of 900 SGD/month of housing allowance, but no child education allowance. I have a few friends in Singapore, and they are all working in private companies. They all say that the housing allowance offered to me is low and I should get some of the school fee also as the part of the package.

I haven't accepted the offer yet.

Is it Is it common in ASTAR to give (partial) school fees also? what are the typical numbers for the Housing allowance and school fee allowance?

Highly appreciate any help!

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Ram
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Re: ASTAR - Scientist II - Housing and child education allowance

Postby PNGMK » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 8:37 am

I don't know about ASTAR but you could be looking at a cost of at least S$24,000 for education for your child if ASTAR don't have same arrangement to guarantee the child a place in a local school. Note that local school fees for foreign kids are going up to $600 a month. This is your deal breaker.
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Re: ASTAR - Scientist II - Housing and child education allowance

Postby mkram » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 8:42 am

PNGMK wrote:I don't know about ASTAR but you could be looking at a cost of at least S$24,000 for education for your child if ASTAR don't have same arrangement to guarantee the child a place in a local school. Note that local school fees for foreign kids are going up to $600 a month. This is your deal breaker.


Thanks PNGMK,

this is what I am concerned about. Paying such high school fees. What about the house allowance? what is a typical number? I hear about a wide range of 800-2200 on this forum. This is not helping me to know if I am correctly offered.

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Re: ASTAR - Scientist II - Housing and child education allowance

Postby x9200 » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 9:09 am

I don't think it is that common right now to be offered any children education allowance. Besides, Scientist 2 is pretty much at the bottom of the ladder.

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby PNGMK » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 9:19 am

That housing allowance is low for sure.
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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby bro75 » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 3:35 pm

900 sgd/month is a master bedroom in a hdb (public) apartment or a common room in a condominium.

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby Barnsley » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 4:02 pm

PNGMK wrote:That housing allowance is low for sure.


One of my friends who works in that field lost his housing allowance after being here 7 years, new hires still get some sort of housing allowance as part of the package.

With no schooling allowance either , he is now exploring options elsewhere.
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Postby Barnsley » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 4:04 pm

bro75 wrote:900 sgd/month is a master bedroom in a hdb (public) apartment or a common room in a condominium.


I am fairly sure the OP is capable of adding 1k a month to that allowance and getting a place of their own.

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby mkram » Thu, 13 Oct 2016 8:03 pm

Barnsley, bro75, PNGMK,

thank you very much for the inputs. My picture is getting clearer!

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby calugaruvaxile » Tue, 18 Oct 2016 2:49 am

dude, i've been in your shoes 8 years ago. i was married but no kids. i got SGD1200 housing allowance (usually it was 900). if you have kids they will pay the school (partially). not the kikigarten, the private school. but ... there is a catch ... 5 years max on scientist 2!! and if you make the error of becoming PR before the contract renewal (after 3 years) you lose everything (all the allowances) after the initial contract expires.

so if you're in a hit-and-run mission, stay in sg for 3 to 5 years and then eject. if you want something stable, go elsewhere.

for the record, the 900 allowance doesn't cover more than 40% of the rent (if you want to live decently) but without it and with the pay for scientist 2 it will be mission impossible

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby mkram » Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:50 pm

Hi calugaruvaxile,

It is really comforting to know to learn the experience of someone in the same shoes. I was unsure if it will be unrealistic if more housing allowance and kids education support is sought. I will ask to revise their offer and see if they can take the realities into account.

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Postby ecureilx » Wed, 19 Oct 2016 1:03 am

mkram wrote:Hi calugaruvaxile,

It is really comforting to know to learn the experience of someone in the same shoes. I was unsure if it will be unrealistic if more housing allowance and kids education support is sought. I will ask to revise their offer and see if they can take the realities into account.


If your ID is some indication of your origin, 900 $ is like the standard housing allowance ....

I won't expect any revision unless you are In a strong position to negotiate.

That's my 2 cents.

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby Sporkin » Wed, 19 Oct 2016 9:08 am

FYI you might want to ask about the performance review system in place. *Cough* stacked ranking *cough*

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby DrScrumMaster » Wed, 19 Oct 2016 7:07 pm

Sporkin wrote:stacked ranking


That's still used!?

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Re: ASTAR - Housing and child education allowance

Postby x9200 » Wed, 19 Oct 2016 9:10 pm

DrScrumMaster wrote:
Sporkin wrote:stacked ranking


That's still used!?

It's not a classical stack ranking. It is heavily evidence based.

@Sporkin, asking about the system will result in an answer that is perfectly convincing as reasonable. There are problems with the system, but they are somewhere else.


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