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Relocating our Domestic Helper with us from Hong Kong (to Singapore)
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Relocating our Domestic Helper with us from Hong Kong (to Singapore)
Hello,
we will be moving (back) to Singapore early 2017 and we are currently very happy with our Domestic Helper here in Hong Kong. We would like to bring her with us and continue to employ her in Singapore.
Has anyone done this before and what was your experience, is it easy, complicated, expensive? Any advise on the requirements or workflow / documents?
Thanks a lot!
AAM
we will be moving (back) to Singapore early 2017 and we are currently very happy with our Domestic Helper here in Hong Kong. We would like to bring her with us and continue to employ her in Singapore.
Has anyone done this before and what was your experience, is it easy, complicated, expensive? Any advise on the requirements or workflow / documents?
Thanks a lot!
AAM
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Squirrel, this one is for you.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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Why the angry face mate?AngryAngMo wrote:Hello,
we will be moving (back) to Singapore early 2017 and we are currently very happy with our Domestic Helper here in Hong Kong. We would like to bring her with us and continue to employ her in Singapore.
Has anyone done this before and what was your experience, is it easy, complicated, expensive? Any advise on the requirements or workflow / documents?
Thanks a lot!
AAM

Which country is she from ?
It can be easy as it can be or painful depending upon her country of origin.
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Squirrel, this one is for you.

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shes from the Philippines, experienced, has worked for 10 years in HK and is since 2 years working for us! I got my EP already approved and have lived in Singapore 5 years previous to HK.
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If she has registered properly under POEA then it's just a matter of drawing a standard contract and getting it endorsed at the embassy. Plus get the minor paper work settled. That's the Philippine embassy.AngryAngMo wrote:shes from the Philippines, experienced, has worked for 10 years in HK and is since 2 years working for us! I got my EP already approved and have lived in Singapore 5 years previous to HK.
If she has not properly registered under POEA, then a load of additional requirements need to be met.
The above can be done after you get her work permit at MOM. Do check up MOM for the FDW permit.
As a new employer in Singapore you need to pass the employer's exam as well.
Just ensure her passport has validity of more than 6 months. And she's below 50 years of age
Let me know if the above sounds simple.
Plan B is to get an agent who won't go for salary deduction and do the embassy work + MOM permit + exit to Malaysia to collect the permit etc and all for a small fee.
Most agents tend to not take up the above work as it's not profitable.
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Don't you mean usurious.ecureilx wrote: Most agents tend to not take up the above work as it's not profitable.

SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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Miracles do happen sometimessundaymorningstaple wrote:Don't you mean usurious.ecureilx wrote: Most agents tend to not take up the above work as it's not profitable.

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Re: Relocating our Domestic Helper with us to Singapore
Thanks a lot for all the details! Let me check with her on POEA (http://www.poea.gov.ph/). Usually they would register there themselves?
Cheers
AAM
Cheers
AAM
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Nope. There are few requirements to be met, including relevant TESDA training, Overseas Orientation etc, to be registered in POEA, and to be certified a legal OFW (Overseas Foreign Worker - all others are illegal, by PH lawAngryAngMo wrote:Thanks a lot for all the details! Let me check with her on POEA (http://www.poea.gov.ph/). Usually they would register there themselves?
Cheers
AAM

Rather than figuring your way through that bureaucratic mess, just ask her if she was deployed in HK legally (ahem, in Philippines terms) and if she says yes, you can hop through a few steps.
All you need then, if she's a legal OFW in HK, is to comply with Philippine Embassy / POLO requirements.
All that registration etc, is apparently to protect the Filipinos from being abused by foreigners

Failure to be legally employed means, when she goes back to Philippines for a holiday, she may be held at the airport, plus when she wants to come back, she may be off loaded by the immigration in Philippines and charged for being an illegal foreign worker.
Once you cleared the Philippine side of the problem, Singapore is pretty much cake walk.
Fyi.
http://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permit ... gramme-eop
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hmmm, i would expect her to be legally employed here.. We have a government approved and required legally binding working contract with her, for which she had to submit all kind of documents to the different government bodies. She has a proper Employment Visa here in HK too, and she travels back every year, without being held at the airport 

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Fret not. As I said.AngryAngMo wrote:hmmm, i would expect her to be legally employed here.. We have a government approved and required legally binding working contract with her, for which she had to submit all kind of documents to the different government bodies. She has a proper Employment Visa here in HK too, and she travels back every year, without being held at the airport
Just ask if she been Registered in Philippines. It only speeds up the "Philippines" side of the paperwork.
If not, the missing papers just need to be regularised.
If she's done the POEA, POLO, OWWA and all, then just need the embassy endorsement of the contract, insurance and bit more.
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The new Philippines president has vowed to reduce or remove most of the needless paperwork...AngryAngMo wrote:...
Life may get easier actually
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alright sounds good, will let you know the outcome!
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Will PM you a link with the steps,AngryAngMo wrote:alright sounds good, will let you know the outcome!
It's from a blog but pretty much accurate.
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Alright, getting closer to the actual move, and I just realized that I can only attend the EOP Training Course, once I have my SingPass (which I only get once i have arrived in Singapore). Hence my question,
- How to handle this with my FDW, would I ask her to stay behind in HK and then come over later!?
- Does my wife have to do the EOP too, or is this only for the person signing her Employment Contract
- Are there any standard / most common health insurance plans for FDW?
Cheers!!
- How to handle this with my FDW, would I ask her to stay behind in HK and then come over later!?
- Does my wife have to do the EOP too, or is this only for the person signing her Employment Contract
- Are there any standard / most common health insurance plans for FDW?
Cheers!!
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