SC application approved

[Dukunberanak]

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Indonesian 32yo, male, single.
Landed in Singapore 2010.
Apply PR august 2012, rejected october 2012.
Apply PR april 2013, approved june 2013.
Apply SC online july 2015, submit document Dec 2015, approved August 2016. AIP Letter is still otw to my home address.

I have been watching this forum for past 4 years. Thanks moderator and forum members for all positive comment and support.

[dynoto]

Male?
Gosh i always thought you're a mother with child or something given your name.


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[WoShiDavid95]

If I may ask, what did you work as and what was your salary?

[Dukunberanak]

Mar 2010-Sept 2010 (software house)
2010, 2.6k

Sept 2010-Oct 2014 (soft engineer, local bank A, contract thru agency)
2010 3.3k
2011 3.8k
2012 4.2k
2013, 4.5k
2014, 4.7k

Oct 2014-til date (soft engineer, local bank B, contract thru agency)
2014, 5.5k
2016, 5.665k

[WoShiDavid95]

Mar 2010-Sept 2010 (software house)
2010, 2.6k

Sept 2010-Oct 2014 (soft engineer, local bank A, contract thru agency)
2010 3.3k
2011 3.8k
2012 4.2k
2013, 4.5k
2014, 4.7k

Oct 2014-til date (soft engineer, local bank B, contract thru agency)
2014, 5.5k
2016, 5.665k

Thanks for your reply, gives people like me hope As in you're not one of those 6 figure salary people... I am also Indo-Chinese and I'm an NTU Chemical Engineering student at the moment and I hope to apply PR after filing tax for one year instead of waiting for 3 years of NOA when I graduate because I've been studying here since 2008 and thus I'm already very culturally Singaporean and also I want to volunteer part-time in the SPF since I missed NS... but if my first try gets rejected, I guess there is definitely still hope because assuming I follow normal career progressions I should have improved my profile enough to eventually get it approved.

[dynamic.dante]

Salary isnt the main metric though.

You can have someone earning as low as 2k working in F&B industry getting PR while other earning 20k a month in finance industry getting rejected


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[WoShiDavid95]

Salary isnt the main metric though.

You can have someone earning as low as 2k working in F&B industry getting PR while other earning 20k a month in finance industry getting rejected


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With that being said, why did SMS only give me a 50% chance rate of success though I'm Indo-Chinese and an NTU graduate and been studying here under the local education system since 2008? :/

It's like I have already culturally integrated myself and I'm more Singaporean than Indonesian, surely if an F&B worker earning $2k can get PR means I should have no problem as someone who's been here for so long and thus culturally integrated (I even speak Chinese as I studied it for both O and A levels), working in something more qualified and thus earning more? So why only 50% @_@ Especially when I'm even willing to sacrifice my time to contribute to their national security since I missed NS... yeah, I like SG that much.

[Dukunberanak]

Salary isnt the main metric though.

You can have someone earning as low as 2k working in F&B industry getting PR while other earning 20k a month in finance industry getting rejected


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With that being said, why did SMS only give me a 50% chance rate of success though I'm Indo-Chinese and an NTU graduate and been studying here under the local education system since 2008? :/

It's like I have already culturally integrated myself and I'm more Singaporean than Indonesian, surely if an F&B worker earning $2k can get PR means I should have no problem as someone who's been here for so long and thus culturally integrated (I even speak Chinese as I studied it for both O and A levels), working in something more qualified and thus earning more? So why only 50% @_@ Especially when I'm even willing to sacrifice my time to contribute to their national security since I missed NS... yeah, I like SG that much.

Sms prediction is assesed very deep based on his experience.
U should proove urself u are competitive in SG without PR status. Must take note some people can study in good uni just because their parent rich.

[WoShiDavid95]

Salary isnt the main metric though.

You can have someone earning as low as 2k working in F&B industry getting PR while other earning 20k a month in finance industry getting rejected


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With that being said, why did SMS only give me a 50% chance rate of success though I'm Indo-Chinese and an NTU graduate and been studying here under the local education system since 2008? :/

It's like I have already culturally integrated myself and I'm more Singaporean than Indonesian, surely if an F&B worker earning $2k can get PR means I should have no problem as someone who's been here for so long and thus culturally integrated (I even speak Chinese as I studied it for both O and A levels), working in something more qualified and thus earning more? So why only 50% @_@ Especially when I'm even willing to sacrifice my time to contribute to their national security since I missed NS... yeah, I like SG that much.

Sms prediction is assesed very deep based on his experience.
U should proove urself u are competitive in SG without PR status. Must take note some people can study in good uni just because their parent rich.

Seriously, is it even possible to bribe our way to NTU/NUS, if that's what you're implying... Singapore is like virtually free of corruption. I got into NTU purely on merit, I did well enough for O levels to get into a JC and well enough for my A levels to enter NTU's Chemical Engineering... that should mean I'm competitive enough, no? Especially if an F&B worker is deemed competitive enough for PR...

[Dukunberanak]

U are good candidate for them.
But giving PR to soon for you is a extra burden for company. Since the company will need give extra pay your cpf. Gov SG must fair to their own male citizen who serve 2 years NS.
There are many external factors here, not only about our profile matters. The approval chance 50-50 is very make sense

[WoShiDavid95]

U are good candidate for them.
But giving PR to soon for you is a extra burden for company. Since the company will need give extra pay your cpf. Gov SG must fair to their own male citizen who serve 2 years NS.
There are many external factors here, not only about our profile matters. The approval chance 50-50 is very make sense

I see... but when I apply later, wouldn't it also be a burden because they still have to pay my CPF? What difference does it make, assuming my profile is the same with the only difference being number of years of work? Also when you first got rejected, did the letter specify how long you have to wait before reapplying or did it just say you are welcome to stay on your existing work pass?

[Dukunberanak]

It said you are welcome to stay on your existing pass

[dynoto]

With that being said, why did SMS only give me a 50% chance rate of success though I'm Indo-Chinese and an NTU graduate and been studying here under the local education system since 2008? :/

It's like I have already culturally integrated myself and I'm more Singaporean than Indonesian, surely if an F&B worker earning $2k can get PR means I should have no problem as someone who's been here for so long and thus culturally integrated (I even speak Chinese as I studied it for both O and A levels), working in something more qualified and thus earning more? So why only 50% @_@ Especially when I'm even willing to sacrifice my time to contribute to their national security since I missed NS... yeah, I like SG that much.

Sms prediction is assesed very deep based on his experience.
U should proove urself u are competitive in SG without PR status. Must take note some people can study in good uni just because their parent rich.

Seriously, is it even possible to bribe our way to NTU/NUS, if that's what you're implying... Singapore is like virtually free of corruption. I got into NTU purely on merit, I did well enough for O levels to get into a JC and well enough for my A levels to enter NTU's Chemical Engineering... that should mean I'm competitive enough, no? Especially if an F&B worker is deemed competitive enough for PR...

hmmmm ... actually what i think is, if a specific industry are short of skilled manpower, more PR will be allocated for those working on that industry.
i mean, if judging from competitiveness i can tell that there are specific group of people in a specific country that tend to be really competitive in IT field.
But you can't allocate all of the PR yearly quotas and not considering other industry shortage of skilled 'talent'.

F&B case is probably seeing not many people nowadays are eager into this kind of jobs, young graduates nowadays prefer to keep their hands clean rather than working on the other side of the kitchen.
I've personally known a few thai cooks and waitresses during my part time few years ago and they all gotten their PR even though taking home less than 2k a month, one of them i recalled was $1.9k and she was pretty happy with it.

[ecureilx]

F&B case is probably seeing not many people nowadays are eager into this kind of jobs, young graduates nowadays prefer to keep their hands clean rather than working on the other side of the kitchen.

Not true. My experience has been, locals have to compete with more experienced imports working for lower pay ...

Yes I know enough locals in FnB

I've personally known a few thai cooks and waitresses during my part time few years ago and they all gotten their PR even though taking home less than 2k a month, one of them i recalled was $1.9k and she was pretty happy with it.

That's changing as more and more local who left FnB are coming back, with tightened market.

[ecureilx]

Seriously, is it even possible to bribe our way to NTU/NUS, if that's what you're implying... Singapore is like virtually free of corruption. I got into NTU purely on merit, I did well enough for O levels to get into a JC and well enough for my A levels to enter NTU's Chemical Engineering... that should mean I'm competitive enough, no?

Also means your parents could afford to let you study in Singapore, something those more competitive may not be able to do due to $.

Especially if an F&B worker is deemed competitive enough for PR...

That's not a good attitude. Everybody has their importance in society, and who knows, in the grand scheme of things, maybe Singapore doesn't need Chemical Engineers to be permanently anchored in Singapore?

Can you feed a 1,000 people with your Engineering Degree ?

PS are your local friends of the atas class ?

Regarding SMS giving you 50% chance, do you know a few years ago like almost 90% of Indonesians were rejected for PR ? And work passes for Indonesians were super delayed. That gossip is from my Indonesian friends who, just before that, got LPR and converted to PR, for peanut salary, a scheme that just handed out PR for any Indonesian who had any degree, and got any job!