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Help for my foreign Wife

Postby Ica15 » Sun, 21 Aug 2016 9:18 pm

Hi I'm a singaporean and new to this forum but I found it very useful in terms of sharing advice and experiences regards to immigration issues.

Here is my problem and hope to receive some advice.

My wife was deported from Singapore two years ago after ICA revoked her LTVP. She was committed an offence of providing dirty massage according to police and ICA. She was prohibited from entering singapore for 6 years. Now she is pregnant after numerous tries of test tube baby procedures and I would like to get her back to sg for medical follow up as well as delivery of the baby in Sg.

May I know anyone having same issue as me? Maybe can share what is the chances of getting her back to sg for delivery of baby? If yes, which months of pregnancy she will be able to enter sg?

Note: I just want some advise on this. Pls do not comment why I so stupid blah blah. Let's focus on my current issue. Thanks in advance.

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Postby BBCWatcher » Sun, 21 Aug 2016 9:46 pm

Ica15 wrote:My wife was deported from Singapore two years ago after ICA revoked her LTVP.... She was prohibited from entering singapore for 6 years....

Well, you can try sponsoring her for a LTVP to deliver a child in Singapore. There is a fee to lodge an application, please note.

Unfortunately it's extremely unlikely even that type of LTVP will be granted. Foreigners have no right of entry, and her entry ban still has another 4 years or so to run.

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Postby ecureilx » Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:03 pm

Ica15 wrote:Hi I'm a singaporean and new to this forum but I found it very useful in terms of sharing advice and experiences regards to immigration issues.

Here is my problem and hope to receive some advice.

My wife was deported from Singapore two years ago after ICA revoked her LTVP. She was committed an offence of providing dirty massage according to police and ICA. She was prohibited from entering singapore for 6 years. Now she is pregnant after numerous tries of test tube baby procedures and I would like to get her back to sg for medical follow up as well as delivery of the baby in Sg.

May I know anyone having same issue as me? Maybe can share what is the chances of getting her back to sg for delivery of baby? If yes, which months of pregnancy she will be able to enter sg?

Note: I just want some advise on this. Pls do not comment why I so stupid blah blah. Let's focus on my current issue. Thanks in advance.


Nothing will move ICA. Your child Will be granted citizenship and, if you try hard, a visit visa for medical check ups. That's from seeing enough guys in similar predicament.

You can try to apply for visa for delivery but she must leave after delivery. Nothing will change that. Not even the baby.

It maybe 3 years before they consider LTVP. If you are lucky. Or wait out the 6 years.

Which country is she from ? CPF board has covered some costs overseas.

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Re: Help for my foreign Wife

Postby Ica15 » Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:27 pm

BBCWatcher wrote:
Ica15 wrote:My wife was deported from Singapore two years ago after ICA revoked her LTVP.... She was prohibited from entering singapore for 6 years....

Well, you can try sponsoring her for a LTVP to deliver a child in Singapore. There is a fee to lodge an application, please note.

Unfortunately it's extremely unlikely even that type of LTVP will be granted. Foreigners have no right of entry, and her entry ban still has another 4 years or so to run.


So you are saying there is no chance to come back?
What is the fee about?

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Postby Ica15 » Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:32 pm

ecureilx wrote:
Ica15 wrote:Hi I'm a singaporean and new to this forum but I found it very useful in terms of sharing advice and experiences regards to immigration issues.

Here is my problem and hope to receive some advice.

My wife was deported from Singapore two years ago after ICA revoked her LTVP. She was committed an offence of providing dirty massage according to police and ICA. She was prohibited from entering singapore for 6 years. Now she is pregnant after numerous tries of test tube baby procedures and I would like to get her back to sg for medical follow up as well as delivery of the baby in Sg.

May I know anyone having same issue as me? Maybe can share what is the chances of getting her back to sg for delivery of baby? If yes, which months of pregnancy she will be able to enter sg?

Note: I just want some advise on this. Pls do not comment why I so stupid blah blah. Let's focus on my current issue. Thanks in advance.


Nothing will move ICA. Your child Will be granted citizenship and, if you try hard, a visit visa for medical check ups. That's from seeing enough guys in similar predicament.

You can try to apply for visa for delivery but she must leave after delivery. Nothing will change that. Not even the baby.

It maybe 3 years before they consider LTVP. If you are lucky. Or wait out the 6 years.

Which country is she from ? CPF board has covered some costs overseas.


Thanks for telling me that there is a chance for her to come back for delivery of baby. But I suppose that she has to be in sg at least 3 months before her child delivery. Airline is not allow for her to board after that. How shall I reach out to ICA? Via MP appeal etc

Have you seen any case that granted the LTVP before the expire of the ban period?

She is from PRC. What is this cpf cost about?

Sorry for asking so many question.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 1:32 am

Ica15 wrote:Thanks for telling me that there is a chance for her to come back for delivery of baby. But I suppose that she has to be in sg at least 3 months before her child delivery. Airline is not allow for her to board after that. How shall I reach out to ICA? Via MP appeal etc


ICA possibly has seen enough excuses so they are rigid.

I never seen them make exemption for white card case. Only for other cases. Sorry to say that.

Btw. If, a big IF, ICA allows, Airlines will accept if a doctor certifies.

Have you seen any case that granted the LTVP before the expire of the ban period?


Me, No, for white card cases.

She is from PRC. What is this cpf cost about?.


CPF was proposing use of Medisave for overseas medical treatment. You can go and check with CPFB.

I doubt they will accept treatment / costs incurred in China

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Postby BBCWatcher » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 8:47 am

Airlines vary. For example, Singapore Airlines allows pregnant women to fly through their 28th week without any restrictions and, for a few weeks thereafter, with a doctor's permission. As another example, Air China does not require any doctor's permission before the 32nd week.

....But always use good judgment in favor of the mother's and child's health.

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Postby Ica15 » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 9:18 am

ecureilx wrote:
Ica15 wrote:Thanks for telling me that there is a chance for her to come back for delivery of baby. But I suppose that she has to be in sg at least 3 months before her child delivery. Airline is not allow for her to board after that. How shall I reach out to ICA? Via MP appeal etc


ICA possibly has seen enough excuses so they are rigid.

I never seen them make exemption for white card case. Only for other cases. Sorry to say that.

Btw. If, a big IF, ICA allows, Airlines will accept if a doctor certifies.

Have you seen any case that granted the LTVP before the expire of the ban period?


Me, No, for white card cases.

She is from PRC. What is this cpf cost about?.


CPF was proposing use of Medisave for overseas medical treatment. You can go and check with CPFB.

I doubt they will accept treatment / costs incurred in China


Thanks for reply. Looks like the chance is very slim for her. Just hoping she is able to come back after 6 year ban. Right?
I better look at the option to give birth in China then see how to convert my child to singaporean after that. Any advise on this?

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Postby BBCWatcher » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 9:47 am

There's no "conversion." Here are the details. Either your baby is able to be documented as a Singaporean citizen or not, and, if so, you document your baby's citizenship. Your baby is also likely to be born a citizen of China.

Under present law, upon reaching adulthood, your child will have to make a citizenship-related decision if he/she is Singaporean and has two or more citizenships. That's a couple decades into the future. Note that National Service obligations may apply regardless of that future decision. (That's another large topic.)

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Re: Help for my foreign Wife

Postby Ica15 » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:43 am

BBCWatcher wrote:There's no "conversion." Here are the details. Either your baby is able to be documented as a Singaporean citizen or not, and, if so, you document your baby's citizenship. Your baby is also likely to be born a citizen of China.

Under present law, upon reaching adulthood, your child will have to make a citizenship-related decision if he/she is Singaporean and has two or more citizenships. That's a couple decades into the future. Note that National Service obligations may apply regardless of that future decision. (That's another large topic.)


Okay. Thanks for the kind advice.

Giving birth in sg makes thing much easier for me, the hussle of going throu all the applications with China and sg authority is reduce too.

Here is what I gonna do, I will make a trip down to ICA and submit an application to get her enter sg for delivery of baby. Hopefully ICA will consider at the case for the sake of singaporean baby. Any advice or ways that I can do in order to increase my chance of succeed on my application?

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Re: RE: Re: Help for my foreign Wife

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:02 am

Ica15 wrote:Here is what I gonna do, I will make a trip down to ICA and submit an application to get her enter sg for delivery of baby. Hopefully ICA will consider at the case for the sake of singaporean baby. Any advice or ways that I can do in order to increase my chance of succeed on my application?


As I said, Singapore doesn't like white card issues.

Nothing can be done to increase the chances.

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Re: RE: Re: Help for my foreign Wife

Postby Ica15 » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:15 am

ecureilx wrote:
Ica15 wrote:Here is what I gonna do, I will make a trip down to ICA and submit an application to get her enter sg for delivery of baby. Hopefully ICA will consider at the case for the sake of singaporean baby. Any advice or ways that I can do in order to increase my chance of succeed on my application?


As I said, Singapore doesn't like white card issues.

Nothing can be done to increase the chances.


So based on your view, no chance for allowing delivery of baby in sg? Just focus on option 2 which is to give birth in China?

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Re: Help for my foreign Wife

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:22 am

Try, but make sure Plan B in China is okay as it's probably going to take place there.

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Re: Help for my foreign Wife

Postby Ica15 » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:51 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Try, but make sure Plan B in China is okay as it's probably going to take place there.
just

This really sounds very depressing to me. What I want is just delivery the baby in sg and she will leave after that. I believe she has to serve what she deserve due to the wrong doing.

I will still make a trip down to ICA no matter what.

Anyone facing the same or similar issue, can PM me? :(

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 22 Aug 2016 4:20 pm

Ica15 wrote:This really sounds very depressing to me. What I want is just delivery the baby in sg and she will leave after that. I believe she has to serve what she deserve due to the wrong doing.


Too bad ... doing bad stuff and getting caught by AV checks is like committing suicide ...

Ica15 wrote:I will still make a trip down to ICA no matter what.

Anyone facing the same or similar issue, can PM me? :(


Good luck.


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