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entry VISA for in-Laws

Postby vishnu_msg » Sun, 24 Jul 2016 6:26 pm

Hi All,

I need advice,

I am staying in SG since 2013, I had a kid last year & to look after the kid and my in-laws supported us hence they were staying with us for last 20 months, (they were coming in and going out as required by SG rules & had a mulitple entry visa for 2 years).

However, their Visa expired this month (July first week) we have applied for SG visa , while they were staying in Johor Bharu. But the Visa was rejected, we then again tried to apply with a local contact but that as well was rejected, Please advise if we can appeal for the rejection.

Are there any chances of getting SG VISA for both Mother-in-law &Father in law. Please suggest.

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Postby ecureilx » Sun, 24 Jul 2016 7:42 pm

vishnu_msg wrote:
Are there any chances of getting SG VISA for both Mother-in-law &Father in law. Please suggest.


What passport do they hold ?

India?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 24 Jul 2016 7:52 pm

I'm assuming you are on an EP and earning a substantial salary, first of all. If you are on an EP, you will not be able to bring them in on anything more than a bog standard Social Visit Pass in whatever length is normal from your country of origin. LTVP is out of the question.

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Postby BBCWatcher » Sun, 24 Jul 2016 10:35 pm

Moreover, a STVP is not for your in-laws' de facto residence in Singapore. Visits must be both short and occasional. It sounds like your in-laws' had some "visa runs." Eventually, that won't work. Maybe they've already reached that point.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 2:12 am

BBCWatcher wrote:Moreover, a STVP is not for your in-laws' de facto residence in Singapore. Visits must be both short and occasional. It sounds like your in-laws' had some "visa runs." Eventually, that won't work. Maybe they've already reached that point.

Indians can't do visa runs, try they may ....

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Postby okonu » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 7:20 am

Unlikely. Wait three months then try again.

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Postby BBCWatcher » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 2:13 pm

ecureilx wrote:Indians can't do visa runs, try they may ....

We do not know the nationalty(ies) of these in-laws.

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Postby ecureilx » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 2:19 pm

BBCWatcher wrote:
ecureilx wrote:Indians can't do visa runs, try they may ....

We do not know the nationalty(ies) of these in-laws.


Ok, I give up !!

PS, I may dare say there is too many hints there for a 99.9% accurate prediction that the OP is Indian, but then again, you may differ saying there's a teeny meeny chance ... :-k

So back to my reply, I am pretty confident OP's in law's nationality / passport doesn't allow visa runs !!!

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 2:34 pm

In addition, OP never confirmed squirrel's question on nationality which is a pretty good giveaway. Pretty much considering the nick, the eMail address and the typical habits, I'd have to say I'd add another 9 to it. 99.99% sure of the nationality. Also the fact that when ecureilx asked if they were Indian, there has been no response since the 1st post. Typical

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Postby Strong Eagle » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 8:46 pm

BBCWatcher wrote:
ecureilx wrote:Indians can't do visa runs, try they may ....

We do not know the nationalty(ies) of these in-laws.


I've never seen a Norwegian with a handle of "vishnu_msg", nor use the phraseology, "I am staying in SG". Have you?

It's a very good bet to guess, "Indian".

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Postby BBCWatcher » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 9:28 pm

So far, vishnu_msg hasn't posted anything except the original post, and of course there's no obligation to post again. Nationality does not depend on diction, especially in Singapore. There is absolutely no requirement that vishnu_msg must share the same nationality(ies) as his (her?) in-laws. On top of all that, vishnu_msg has already explained that his/her in-laws stayed in Singapore for 20 months through a series of repeated visits ["...hence they were staying with us for last 20 months, (they were coming in and going out as required by SG rules & had a mulitple entry visa for 2 years)."] Most people would call that "visa running." No matter what the in-laws' nationality(ies), according to vishnu_msg they've already run, a lot.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:19 pm

Pout some more?

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Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 26 Jul 2016 1:10 am

BBCWatcher wrote:So far, vishnu_msg hasn't posted anything except the original post, and of course there's no obligation to post again. Nationality does not depend on diction, especially in Singapore. There is absolutely no requirement that vishnu_msg must share the same nationality(ies) as his (her?) in-laws. On top of all that, vishnu_msg has already explained that his/her in-laws stayed in Singapore for 20 months through a series of repeated visits ["...hence they were staying with us for last 20 months, (they were coming in and going out as required by SG rules & had a mulitple entry visa for 2 years)."] Most people would call that "visa running." No matter what the in-laws' nationality(ies), according to vishnu_msg they've already run, a lot.


Mr. Waton... er... BBCW... you have missed multiple points of observation and hence arrived no place in terms of your deductions.

The parents had a multiple entry visa. This means that they have to be from a Level 1 or 2 country. Coupled with the OP's handle, that country will most likely be India.

ICA used to regularly issue multiple entry, two year visas to Indians... you'd have a do a search of the forum going back to 2005 to find quite a few posts on the subject. Perhaps parents from another Level 1 or 2 country have also received a multiple entry visa but history says that the probability is much higher that the parents are Indian. (Side note: ICA no longer issues two year visas to Indian or Chinese nationals).

So long as they followed the rules regarding length of stay and return to home country requirements, no one was doing any kind of "visa run". However, it is unlikely they'd get a second 2 year visa, especially with the crackdown on Indian nationals.

In a world of arranged marriages, it would be very unusual to find a non-Indian spouse. Therefore, I'd bet money the parents are Indian.

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Postby BBCWatcher » Tue, 26 Jul 2016 1:55 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:So long as they followed the rules regarding length of stay and return to home country requirements, no one was doing any kind of "visa run".

So long as....

vishnu_msg wrote:....we have applied for SG visa , while they were staying in Johor Bharu....

"Ooops." (Emphases mine.)

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Re: entry VISA for in-Laws

Postby ecureilx » Tue, 26 Jul 2016 4:33 pm

BBCWatcher wrote:
vishnu_msg wrote:....we have applied for SG visa , while they were staying in Johor Bharu....

"Ooops." (Emphases mine.)


No, you still don't get it.

If you know any Indians personally, ask how their visa system works.

No, please don't write a 1000 word essay quoting related internet resources and insisting why everybody here is wrong and you are 100% correct !

PS, you can't be always right, all the time ..


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