Hyperbole, of course. And irrelevant to the United Kingdom's own actions and next steps.JR8 wrote:If anyone needs another confirmation that the European Union is fundamentally the most anti-democratic entity currently in existence....
Hyperbole, of course. And irrelevant to the United Kingdom's own actions and next steps.JR8 wrote:If anyone needs another confirmation that the European Union is fundamentally the most anti-democratic entity currently in existence....
Why are you so very angry?BBCWatcher wrote:Keep dreaming. And not at all credible when Scotland is headed for the exit...from the United Kingdom.
I am not sure what you think I suggest. If this is that Brexit made up some xenophobes, then of course not. If, that it made xenophobes to get encouraged and switch from passive to active, then yes, I think this what is happening. But again, that's not really my point.JR8 wrote:Hate crime of various sorts is nothing new, is it credible to suggest these hate crimes directly result from the BREXIT vote?x9200 wrote:Brexit: Wave of hate crime and racial abuse reported after EU referendum
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 04191.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-camb ... e-36633388
I am not sure if these are some zealots spreading hysteria, it's simply in concern and that's why was quoted. Also, don't get me wrong, I just wanted to support a point I already made earlier - there seems to be a lot of problems with the understanding among the voters what they were actually voting for.
Again , these paid shills still get airtime , it beggars belief!!!BBCWatcher wrote:In another economic development, Standard & Poors has dropped its rating on U.K. sovereign debt from AAA to AA. That's actually a two step downgrade, below the EU's AA+ rating. France, a country which doesn't even have its own currency, also has a AA rating.
Mate its very upsetting , the whole thing has blown up and nobody has a clue on what to do to get everyone going more or less in the same direction.x9200 wrote:I am not sure what you think I suggest. If this is that Brexit made up some xenophobes, then of course not. If, that it made xenophobes to get encouraged and switch from passive to active, then yes, I think this what is happening. But again, that's not really my point.JR8 wrote:Hate crime of various sorts is nothing new, is it credible to suggest these hate crimes directly result from the BREXIT vote?x9200 wrote:Brexit: Wave of hate crime and racial abuse reported after EU referendum
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 04191.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-camb ... e-36633388
I am not sure if these are some zealots spreading hysteria, it's simply in concern and that's why was quoted. Also, don't get me wrong, I just wanted to support a point I already made earlier - there seems to be a lot of problems with the understanding among the voters what they were actually voting for.
Let me rephrase. Do you really feel fine that the referendum was won by such small fraction with people who voted by the racial hatred, by the less educated population that probably don't have enough insight to comprehend the whole complexity of the governing issues, and by the elderly? You emphasized on what was promised back in the 70s and that the promise was broken, but this whole referendum looks like one giantic manipulation to me. The end justifies the means? I was actually pretty positive to what has happened until I saw the voting statistics.
I believe that this is the rules , its a complete farce.......Mexikaner wrote:From BBC news:
"...Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has become the first cabinet minister to join the petition in favour of a second referendum on EU membership...Mr Hunt is calling for the start of the withdrawal process - Article 50 - to be delayed until shortly before the next scheduled general election in 2020, which would mean Britain would not leave until after 2022 at the earliest..."
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BBCWatcher wrote: 7. Gibraltar's Chief Minister, Fabian Picardo, is discussing with Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon the possibility of Scotland, Gibraltar, and perhaps also Northern Ireland remaining within the EU as the "successor state" to the United Kingdom (or something like it). This would be roughly similar to Greenland's exit (part of Denmark), in this case with England and Wales playing the role of Greenland. So it technically wouldn't be the United Kingdom that departs the EU but rather only England and Wales -- and perhaps even under some other mechanism than Article 50. Gibraltar then presumably would be a Scottish overseas territory.
I have just bought a small amount in Franklin Templeton European Growth fund. This is for LTBH, hopefullyJR8 wrote:The FTSE intra-day [+2.7% right now] fought up through resistance at/around 6125, and is currently at 6146. In technical analysis terms, there is significance to the upside if the price today remains above 6130 for an hour, aka in charting terms a 'closed hourly candle'.
Well, it's been half an hour now and still rising... the next half should be interesting...
It's going to be volatile short and medium-term, but it appears some foundation of stability is being created.
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