Who is the extra bedroom for?Hatem wrote:....I am 26yrs old, I am single....
This is the breakdown of the expenses, monthly:
Rent 1 Bedroom SGD 3,200.00
OR
Rent 2 Bedroom SGD 4,000.00
This one is "interesting." I assume this is your estimate of total out-of-pocket costs for medical insurance and unreimbursed medical care. Employer-provided medical insurance is tax free in Singapore, so ideally your employer would provide fantastic, uncapped, global medical insurance at zero out-of-pocket cost. It's in your mutual interest to do that given the tax benefits. Your mileage may vary.Health Insurance SGD 170.00
If that's really only train and bus fares, that's too much. It's equal to about $6.60 per day. A "typical" long ride is $1.50, or $3 per work day -- doubtful you're going to be riding more than twice per day on a work day. If you're including a few taxi fares in this amount, I can believe it.Train/Bus Ticket SGD 200.00
This is high, I'd say. M1 charges $39/month for a 12 month 100 Mbps fiber Internet contract, and that includes a home telephone line. If they charge for installation it's not much. Netflix has arrived in Singapore ($14/month for HD), and the local channels are free over the air ($0/month). Rent the occasional movie on iTunes for example ($25/month), and you're all set.Internet and TV SGD 140.00
I'd say this is high, too. We're running about S$180/month these days with a family. If you like polar temperatures indoors then you could hit that number.Utilities SGD 300.00
High again, I'd say. I'm on M1's prepaid at $23 per 50 days, for reference. I don't know why people get 24 month contracts. Most of the world doesn't, and it rarely makes financial sense here. Yet inexplicably some people do it.Mobile phone plan SGD 80.00
You should have higher expectations than this.Savings SGD 1,000.00
That's about $26/day. That seems somewhat high to me for a single guy, unless you have a particular love for expensive imported foods purchased at Cold Storage or Marketplace. Or for alcohol.Groceries SGD 800
This'll chiefly depend on how much alcohol you like, as with groceries. If it's just a bar budget, that's very roughly 50 beers per month or about 12 per weekend.Going Out SGD 800
Can they? Most nationalities get 30 day stay permission. Two well separated 30 day stays per year are probably viable. Are you planning to sponsor them for LTVPs?Hatem wrote:The second bedroom was for my mum and dad who would probably come for 2-3 months a year.
Probably, but...I wouldn't pick the most expensive real estate when you actually choose something. There are places to live that are more fun.3000 for a single in a condo looks suitable if I take out The Sail, Shenton, etc... - right?:)
And presumably you won't be running the AC at home while you're at work.- Regarding the utilities: I do not like a too cold AC at home, so good to know that I can push this down and save an hundred bucks.
I understand the idea of wanting a 2nd bedroom. Either it's there for guests and/or it doubles as a study. The alt of a guest sleeping on the sofa or floor only has so much mileage. That applies more so IME for parents, and esp if they're going to be hanging out for months.Hatem wrote:Few points:
- The second bedroom was for my mum and dad who would probably come for 2-3 months a year. But probably it makes more sense to spend 300-400 less and then rent them maybe a room or something when they will visit.
3000 for a single in a condo looks suitable if I take out The Sail, Shenton, etc... - right?:)
You should check this carefully. It's unclear where you're from but healthcare in SG is expensive.Hatem wrote:- For the Health insurance I am still not aware if the company pays for that.
IME if you use air-con then you come to depend on it, and if you don't use it you don't need it.Hatem wrote:- Regarding the utilities: I do not like a too cold AC at home, so good to know that I can push this down and save an hundred bucks.
Ok, well it's good to be aware of the risk now, as nothing compels you to accept any offer to relo. I was in similar shoes to you on my first relo, in that case to Tokyo. I effectively asked to be posted abroad. That was back in the 90s, before home internet, or the web and when they made me an offer with stacks of zeros on it I thought I was rich. Until I got to Tokyo and found out how much everything costs. So, a relo like that (and yours now) is going to demand a huge amount of work, never mind the upheaval to your life. After my first year in JP I *owed* my employer money, and that was after living modestly. My fault for trusting them, but the ground-work you're doing here now will help prevent anything like that happening to you.Hatem wrote:Very good points and I totally agree on them.
The only point is that I have asked to be considered for that position and they did not write me at first - so this is the worry I have.
Yes, good! The virtue you have is being able to come here and gauge costs. You can also look at cost-of-living converters (Numbeo etc) and get a feel for the likely expenses beyond the headline item of rent.Hatem wrote:However, I will surely not sell myself short and I would probably rather decline the offer if it goes too far (below) from the amount I specified in the post above.
Sounds like my relo from Tokyo down to SG, they needed me and I knew it. Sounds like you're the man. Play it by showing interest but knowing clearly what your price is.Hatem wrote:The request was initiated by me but it is extremely valuable for them ad well considering they do not have to bid for anybody on the market, they do get a resource who implemented already the strategy they want to implement, with a lot of internal network and specific knowledge of internal processes and people - thus I would ask to be paid as much as the position can be paid, ofc according to the company band level / limits.
That's probably a few %? How much are you paying in your home country % wise? Find out the procedure for becoming non-resident for tax in your home country (or whether you are taxed on foreign income or if there is a dual taxation treaty if all else fails).Hatem wrote:Can you elaborate? In my calculation I just use the XLS provided by ICA/MOM to see how much would I pay on 100K gross.
I don’t see a problem with that. What they might find is that SG is a very small place and there is only so much they will find to do. What I have found is that having a spare room in SG is a real perk to offer visiting friends+family, not least because hotels are so expensive. On our last posting in-country I specifically offered the spare room at the disposal of F+F as a kind of Forward Operating Base. So they could arrive in Asia, spend some time discovering SG then travel on/back to various places regionally they likely wouldn’t get to visit otherwise. Example: if you wish to go diving in remoter Asia, Lembeh, Bunaken, Sipidan, Komodo etc then you can count on it being a pretty hellish 2-day journey each-way to/from ‘the West’. There’s a point in life (an age) where that is such a turn-off you won’t do it. Having the chance to break the journey, and having the comfort of regional knowledge of F+F can tip the equation. So they get that advantage, and on the flipside you get to send them a shopping list for stuff to bring from back home Plus you perhaps get a whole bunch of reciprocal invites too.Hatem wrote:- Parents: yes, people from my country get 90-days visa arrival. I have been to Singapore few times in the last few years, and I had no issue in doing that - And I think there will be no issues if they will come one a year.
It depends on where you’re from. But also on the kind of place you live. Lower floor units tend to get less airflow. Units that face towards the sun during the day obviously get hotter too. At our last place we used the air-con for a week or two after we arrived in-country. But air-con is a double-edged sword, since it dehydrates the air too, so it can dry you out and if you have any tendency to snore the result can be using air-con can leave you (via snoring/restless sleep) permanently exhausted.Hatem wrote:- Aircon: I have never used it in my life. I know it would be needed but I am pretty sure I can kinda lower the usage as much as possible, or at least I suppose so.
Good, so they have already gained experience of relo’ing in expats.Hatem wrote:- The company is a very big MNC, that currently employs many expats. My only concern is the possible attempt of trying to low-ball me due to the fact that I am coming from a place where the salaries are much lower (but the cost of living too).
Good for you, and good luck with it!Hatem wrote:- However, yes. I think I am the right candidate for the project they are looking for - Can they get someone else?
Yes, bidding for somebody currently working somewhere else who did something SIMILAR, not the same, who does not know the product, the processes, the frameworks, the people, etc... So I think I am the right man and they need me, we will see how will this stand.
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