Tenant rights?

[bigblue]

have 4 months left. already have given two months notice and served it.

[PNGMK]

OP; if there is no diplomatic clause then just leave the country - ASAP without paying more rent. Technically you're running from a debt (which is not a criminal act) but most LL don't follow the debt up. You'll lose the deposit but that's what the deposit is for. IF you don't have an EP it's no longer reasonable (or even legal) for you to be party to a rental agreement that requires you to be a resident here and if your LL won't work with you then too bad for him.

The deposit is vs damages beyond fair wear and tear. It's has no relation to you walking out on your contractual obligations. Walking out on a functional TA is no more moral than doing a runner on an unpaid bill from a restaurant.

'Losing your EP cancels your obligations under a TA' - yeah, I look forward to seeing that test case get heard

We all know that JR8 but in this shithole that has ZERO tenant protection there is sometimes no choice.

[JR8]

The problem comes when you say - this shit is how it is.
Call me an idealist but I prefer to set out the law, the benchmarks.... 'This is how it should be - NOW decide to respond...
Rather than chucking some limiting umbrella of assumptions over peeps.

[bigblue]

Please keep this thread productive.

I'm looking for answers and real guidance based on past experience or based on someone actually knowing the property laws in Singapore.

Not wild assumptions.

So to JR8 and PNGMK pls take your disagreement off this chat.

[ecureilx]

Please keep this thread productive.

I'm looking for answers and real guidance based on past experience or based on someone actually knowing the property laws in Singapore.

Not wild assumptions.

So to JR8 and PNGMK pls take your disagreement off this chat.

Property law ? Uh no.

You signed an agreement and that's binding, says me. And I am not a legal expert , but seen enough folks in your situation and myself too once.

Better talk to a lawyer to confirm you probably have nothing much to hang on too - plus Add in the lawyer fees to you expenses.

BTW, JR8, I guess, is expressing his thoughts as a landlord. Don't write him off. He's pretty well versed with those property stuff.

Ps. Would your employer have some relocation terms that maybe helpful to you here ?

[ecureilx]

does anyone have any suggestions to where i can post ie websites, etc the apt to find a new tenant?

You can advertise here or on other paid sites.

However its gonna be fun when the landlord insist you to cover the difference if the new tenants insist on paying a lower rent based on current market trends ...

[sundaymorningstaple]

Please keep this thread productive.

I'm looking for answers and real guidance based on past experience or based on someone actually knowing the property laws in Singapore.

Not wild assumptions.

So to JR8 and PNGMK pls take your disagreement off this chat.

Who died and left you boss? - moderator

[bigblue]

again if you don't have experience in this matter or know the law your just trolling and seems like your looking to argue.

for those that gave possible solutions thank you.

[ecureilx]

again if you don't have experience in this matter or know the law your ...

It should be "you are ... " instead of ..

Now it sort of makes sense, how you ended up with a one sided contract.

[x9200]

That's why I am very hesitant to help somebody to win something at the expense of another person who I know nothing about. Especially if this somebody shows clear signs of entitlement complexes right from the start. Zero tenant rights, even if the case, is not good enough.

[BBCWatcher]

have 4 months left. already have given two months notice and served it.

So I'm confused. Did you have a 24 month lease, stayed 20 months, invoked the diplomatic clause, and gave notice 2 months ago? If all that is correct, it seems you have no further obligations provided the diplomatic clause is validly asserted (meaning, you really have to leave Singapore). If you're saying that you are just a few months into a 24 month lease, then the diplomatic clause cuts your obligation in half (to 12 months) but doesn't help any more than that -- although obviously that's a lot better than a 24 month obligation.

I'm assuming "typical" rental agreement language. That's a big assumption.

[bigblue]

thought this forum was put together to help ppl?

instead your fixing my grammar and insulting me now.

Even when your are not at fault, perhaps especially when you are not at fault, let love conquer pride.

[x9200]

thought this forum was put together to help ppl?

instead your fixing my grammar and insulting me now.

Even when your are not at fault, perhaps especially when you are not at fault, let love conquer pride.

This forum is for various reasons, helping is one of them, discussing different subjects another, but I guess there are not that many people who like the attitude of a newbie coming and asking for some help and soon later teaching the regulars what they should and what they should not do. Who do you think you are to do this?

You don't even bother answering questions directed to you and they were intended to better understand your situation.

Moderator

[JR8]

So to JR8 and PNGMK pls take your disagreement off this chat.

I haven't any problem with PNG; more exasperated that you've not defined your issue. And then here you are getting haughty.

'Well good luck with that'...

[JR8]

have 4 months left. already have given two months notice and served it.

So I'm confused. Did you have a 24 month lease, stayed 20 months, invoked the diplomatic clause, and gave notice 2 months ago? If all that is correct, it seems you have no further obligations provided the diplomatic clause is validly asserted (meaning, you really have to leave Singapore). If you're saying that you are just a few months into a 24 month lease, then the diplomatic clause cuts your obligation in half (to 12 months) but doesn't help any more than that -- although obviously that's a lot better than a 24 month obligation.

I'm assuming "typical" rental agreement language. That's a big assumption.

Well quite. He is STILL yet to define the question, despite prompting.