PR surrender and CPF withdrawal

[PNGMK]

I don't have experience. My guess would be within a quarter.

[sgexpatnomore]

Hmm ok. Thank you PNGMK!

Does anyone have experience with this?
--> How long after losing citizenship/PR would NRIC be officially wiped out of the govt's systems?

[singaporeflyer]

Hmm ok. Thank you PNGMK!

Does anyone have experience with this?
--> How long after losing citizenship/PR would NRIC be officially wiped out of the govt's systems?

How will it matter? They wont delete it, may be just disable it.

[sundaymorningstaple]

It won't. It will be deactivated, but not deleted. NRICs are a unique identifiers so they do NOT get reused.

[malcontent]

I know a guy who has worked on and off in Singapore, with absences of up to a decade or more, every time he comes back he gets assigned the same FIN number.

I find it strange that banks here refuse to use my FIN and insist on passport number. It’s a pain to update the number on renewal, and carry a passport to the bank. The last time I renewed I tried using my passport card (easier to carry in my wallet) but they refused. Not only the banks but the credit bureau here also goes by passport number… and if you don’t inform them you’ll start over with no credit history (could be good or bad, depending). Only after realizing this I had them link up all my credit history for all of my passport numbers going back to 1996.

[singaporeflyer]

I know a guy who has worked on and off in Singapore, with absences of up to a decade or more, every time he comes back he gets assigned the same FIN number.

I find it strange that banks here refuse to use my FIN and insist on passport number. It’s a pain to update the number on renewal, and carry a passport to the bank. The last time I renewed I tried using my passport card (easier to carry in my wallet) but they refused. Not only the banks but the credit bureau here also goes by passport number… and if you don’t inform them you’ll start over with no credit history (could be good or bad, depending). Only after realizing this I had them link up all my credit history for all of my passport numbers going back to 1996.

FIN number for an individual will never change how many ever times he moves out and re-enters SG for work on EP.

Same NRIC also once assigned after PR approval does not change after getting SC also.

[Myasis Dragon]

Hmm ok. Thank you PNGMK!

Does anyone have experience with this?
--> How long after losing citizenship/PR would NRIC be officially wiped out of the govt's systems?

What difference does it make? Dropping PR is the very last thing you will do in Singapore. I wound up two businesses, closed a couple of checking and credit card accounts, then applied to give up PR.

I still kept other checking accounts and credit cards for several years and no NRIC was ever needed.

When you think about it, what is there that you would need to access in Singpass? Nothing.

But, fer sure, they still have your old number in the records. It hasn't gone anywhere. They can look you up for historical purposes. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised that if the last time I was in Singapore, the ICA officer knew I had previously been PR.

[motif37]

Hello Everyone,

After reading all the kind info sharing in this thread, my note is that:

1) There is no dealine you must go and withdraw your CPF after you REP expired or SG PR cancellation
2) You can still safely keep you money in CPF even decades after you are not a SG PR and the annual interest will still be given
3) The inconvenient part is that after SG PR get cencelled, you can not use SingPass to login and see the balance or statements

Can anybody kindly help to confirm my understanding above is still correct now and share if there is any regulation change regarding these points in recent months.

Thanks a lot!

[PNGMK]

All that sounds correct. You are wise not to withdraw CPF early.

[motif37]

Thanks a lot PNGMK!

[malcontent]

If a person still has CPF after age 65 but had renounced… does that mean they continue to enjoy 4% on their RA balance with no obligation to buy CPF Life annuity?

[pyramus]

Hello everyone,
I am planning to renounce my PR by end Sep - early Oct time. Myself and my wife are PRs, however she is currently back to our home town and not planning to come back for the cancellation of PR (due to non-PR kids and Covid situation). So I am looking for more info like if it will be possible for me to cancel the PR on her behalf ?
What's required for that ?
Anyone with such experience ?

Thank you in advance for sharing !

I have a similar case with yours anybody here able to share their experience?