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Deferment for spm / Gce o level studies

Postby danteXtribal » Wed, 13 Apr 2016 2:30 pm

Hi all singaporeexpats expert.

I am a 2nd generation singapore PR residing in malaysia and completing my spm/gce O level studies, in which now i am form 5 which is secondary 5 level and i am 17 years old, i have receive my FRO last week as i didnt go register for NS nor medical checkup starting jan session

the question is, i would like to enrol into NS after i complete my SPM and GCE O level which is i will have to defer my ns to next year, can anyone help me explain detailed procedure to defer NS after receiving FRO. is it following the procedure of oversea studies from the CMPB website, which is 3 month exit permit and 75000 bond? is this consider oversea further studies. all help is appreciated. thanks

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Postby nakatago » Wed, 13 Apr 2016 2:37 pm

danteXtribal wrote:Hi all singaporeexpats expert.

I am a 2nd generation singapore PR residing in malaysia and completing my spm/gce O level studies, in which now i am form 5 which is secondary 5 level and i am 17 years old, i have receive my FRO last week as i didnt go register for NS nor medical checkup starting jan session

the question is, i would like to enrol into NS after i complete my SPM and GCE O level which is i will have to defer my ns to next year, can anyone help me explain detailed procedure to defer NS after receiving FRO. is it following the procedure of oversea studies from the CMPB website, which is 3 month exit permit and 75000 bond? is this consider oversea further studies. all help is appreciated. thanks


Quoted for future reference. But from what I can recall, you can't defer. I may be wrong.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Apr 2016 2:44 pm

You cannot defer for tertiary studies. Whether or not you would be allowed to defer to finish your SPM & O levels is another story (for overseas studies). If living and going to school in Singapore you can defer. My so had a 5 years deferment when he went into NAFA. But as he only stayed there for two years he lost his deferment and went into NS/Navy. That fact that you are living in Malaysia and going to school won't bode well as I'm assuming the whole family is there, but honestly I'm inclined to think, IF they allow it, it will entail the exit permits and bond route.

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Re: Deferment for spm / Gce o level studies

Postby danteXtribal » Wed, 13 Apr 2016 2:54 pm

HI Sms,

nope, my whole family wasnt in malaysia , my dad and both my sis are in sg, elder one is completing her studies in ntu, younger one is working. i just lived with my mum in malaysia.

so there is no way except bond and exit permit route for me to defer my ns till next year? if the bond route then the money for the bond is it can get back when i am enlisted?


if i ask for a letter from my secondary school here stating i would had complete my spm/o level studies level can grant deferment or not? or just school issued letter from moe of singapore only have this power.

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Postby the lynx » Wed, 13 Apr 2016 3:36 pm

danteXtribal wrote:HI Sms,

nope, my whole family wasnt in malaysia , my dad and both my sis are in sg, elder one is completing her studies in ntu, younger one is working. i just lived with my mum in malaysia.

so there is no way except bond and exit permit route for me to defer my ns till next year? if the bond route then the money for the bond is it can get back when i am enlisted?


if i ask for a letter from my secondary school here stating i would had complete my spm/o level studies level can grant deferment or not? or just school issued letter from moe of singapore only have this power.


Actually you might be able (not from my experience honestly). Need to check with those Singaporean students who had to repeat O Level at age 17. Because O Level is usually completed at 16, while SPM is 17, so that's another train for thought for those who are doing repeat at 17 here.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Wed, 13 Apr 2016 5:28 pm

The problem as I see it, isn't the deferment to complete N or O levels but whether it can be done while overseas, which technically it is (e.g., a different country) I know deferrals can be done IN Singapore but I don't know about outside Singapore.

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Postby Siv » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 8:53 am

Dude....are you really doing both SPM, AND O Level ??

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Postby ecureilx » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:17 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The problem as I see it, isn't the deferment to complete N or O levels but whether it can be done while overseas, which technically it is (e.g., a different country) I know deferrals can be done IN Singapore but I don't know about outside Singapore.


I don't know about deferment but the bond is going to kick in. Hope OP is loaded enough to put up the $$$$

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Postby danteXtribal » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:08 pm

ecureilx wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:The problem as I see it, isn't the deferment to complete N or O levels but whether it can be done while overseas, which technically it is (e.g., a different country) I know deferrals can be done IN Singapore but I don't know about outside Singapore.


I don't know about deferment but the bond is going to kick in. Hope OP is loaded enough to put up the $$$$


No. if only the bond route is left , i dont think my family have that much of financial means for that.

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Postby danteXtribal » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:12 pm

Siv wrote:Dude....are you really doing both SPM, AND O Level ??



Nope. i am not doing both. just SPM. i scared the members dont understand what is spm so i put SPM/N level/Olevel to clear things up. The thoughts of abandoning my secondary school studies to go to NS keep traumatized me last night.

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Postby danteXtribal » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:14 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:The problem as I see it, isn't the deferment to complete N or O levels but whether it can be done while overseas, which technically it is (e.g., a different country) I know deferrals can be done IN Singapore but I don't know about outside Singapore.


Yes , i know it can be legally done in singapore for government MOE acknowledged school as N level / O level student are subject to one years of deferment if they failed their exam so they can take the exam of the following year one more time. MinDef would allowed deferment for that but in my case i dont know if MinDef will acknowledge my status of studies in malaysia secondary school.

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Re: Deferment for spm / Gce o level studies

Postby ecureilx » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 4:03 pm

danteXtribal wrote: Yes , i know it can be legally done in singapore for government MOE acknowledged school as N level / O level student are subject to one years of deferment if they failed their exam so they can take the exam of the following year one more time. MinDef would allowed deferment for that but in my case i dont know if MinDef will acknowledge my status of studies in malaysia secondary school.


Based on some SC Kids who studied overseas, this is what you need to do :


If you are between 13 and 16.5 years old (You need to apply for an exit permit if you intend to travel or remain overseas for 3 months or longer. If you are remaining overseas for 2 years or longer, your parents/guardians will also need to furnish a bond, in the form of a Banker's Guarantee of S$75,000 or 50% of the combined annual gross income of both parents for the preceding year, whichever is higher.

If you are above 16.5 and have not enlisted for NS:
You need to apply for an exit permit if you intend to travel or remain overseas for 3 months or longer. Your parents/guardians will need to furnish a bond, in the form of a Banker's Guarantee of S$75,000 or 50% of the combined annual gross income of both parents for the preceding year, whichever is higher.

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Re: Deferment for spm / Gce o level studies

Postby danteXtribal » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 6:32 pm

ecureilx wrote:
danteXtribal wrote: Yes , i know it can be legally done in singapore for government MOE acknowledged school as N level / O level student are subject to one years of deferment if they failed their exam so they can take the exam of the following year one more time. MinDef would allowed deferment for that but in my case i dont know if MinDef will acknowledge my status of studies in malaysia secondary school.


Based on some SC Kids who studied overseas, this is what you need to do :


If you are between 13 and 16.5 years old (You need to apply for an exit permit if you intend to travel or remain overseas for 3 months or longer. If you are remaining overseas for 2 years or longer, your parents/guardians will also need to furnish a bond, in the form of a Banker's Guarantee of S$75,000 or 50% of the combined annual gross income of both parents for the preceding year, whichever is higher.

If you are above 16.5 and have not enlisted for NS:
You need to apply for an exit permit if you intend to travel or remain overseas for 3 months or longer. Your parents/guardians will need to furnish a bond, in the form of a Banker's Guarantee of S$75,000 or 50% of the combined annual gross income of both parents for the preceding year, whichever is higher.


Hi, suddenly one thoughts struck me, as i am 17 years and 2 months old now, is the FRO is just to ask me to register to be enlistees and medical screening only?

because next year FEB only i will be 18 years and i already can finished my studies and exam after this year DEC. am i right or wrong here ? sorry but i have seriously clueless about this, by looking at CMPB website the definition of enlistment age there is very grey. having a hardtime understanding it.

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Re: Deferment for spm / Gce o level studies

Postby taxico » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:12 pm

FRO is for pre-enlistment screening, not throwing you inside boot camp. but you have to do/go whatever/wherever they specify on the document (it's an order).

you can defer, but you will need to furnish your parents' (both) tax returns for the previous year and then follow up with a bond - they will tell you how much. you also need a letter from your school (which you already have).

apply at ns.sg

your parents will have to find a bank to apply to also. the guarantee is needed so long as you're studying outside of Singapore... but of course, if you are able to somehow re-enter Singapore daily/regularly... and if your parents are unable to get a letter from the bank... you may have to plan the unconventional route.

just FYI, your parents' don't have to put the full sum of 75k to get a banker's guarantee for 75k.

but if you break the bond...

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Postby taxico » Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:19 pm

i strongly suggest... that before you apply... email them. give them the details... eg, tell them when your first and last day of school is.

see what their reply is...

and FY... the FRO is (usually) one step away from being enlisted.
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