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2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby the lynx » Tue, 22 Mar 2016 4:21 pm

17 dead, dozens wounded in 2 blasts at Brussels airport


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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 22 Mar 2016 8:14 pm

freak!
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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby calugaruvaxile » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 12:19 am

why would europe accept more middle eastern economic migrants, when they can't even deal with the ones they already have (and which are completely ghettoed, as opposite to integrated) i can not understand

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby the lynx » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 9:55 am

And then the metro station got hit. Casualty is now at 30.

God bless them.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:07 am

calugaruvaxile wrote:why would europe accept more middle eastern economic migrants, when they can't even deal with the ones they already have (and which are completely ghettoed, as opposite to integrated) i can not understand


You have simplified a very complicated solution, congratulations.

Truth is, not all those who have seemingly integrated have love for their new mother land, and been getting radicalised, and you can't filter who is good and who is bad.

And likewise, it's wrong to imply all the new arrivals are coming to wreck havoc in Europe. There are a lot who have been severely traumatised and need a helping hand. And I say that after semi-volunteering with some refugee organisation, elsewhere (not in Europe .. ) It is really eye opening to be even in the fringe and learn about their sufferings.

But I do agree with somebody's statement that it's mostly men of fighting age who are fleeing to Europe, leaving their family behind -and that part did get me stumped.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby bgd » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:25 am

ecureilx wrote:
calugaruvaxile wrote:
But I do agree with somebody's statement that it's mostly men of fighting age who are fleeing to Europe, leaving their family behind -and that part did get me stumped.


I think if I was in the situation of undertaking a perilous journey I would do it myself and send for my family once I was settled. Of course that would mean that the family would be in no danger by remaining at home, which implies an economic migrant.

And if I was a Jihadist, I would also travel without my family.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby TMD » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:28 am

Clearly, unlike Singapore's immigration policy, EU has basically got themselves screwed into a deep sh*t situation that they cannot exit without massive popular swing to the right.

We saw that after the London attack, after the post-Charlie Hebdo aftermath in France, growing radicalisation in Turkey and now in downtown Brussels.

Obviously, for immigrants or those able-bodied young men terrorist-wannabe who are looking for countries where the system can be "cheated", it is the EU.

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calugaruvaxile wrote:why would europe accept more middle eastern economic migrants, when they can't even deal with the ones they already have (and which are completely ghettoed, as opposite to integrated) i can not understand


You have simplified a very complicated solution, congratulations.

Truth is, not all those who have seemingly integrated have love for their new mother land, and been getting radicalised, and you can't filter who is good and who is bad.

And likewise, it's wrong to imply all the new arrivals are coming to wreck havoc in Europe. There are a lot who have been severely traumatised and need a helping hand. And I say that after semi-volunteering with some refugee organisation, elsewhere (not in Europe .. ) It is really eye opening to be even in the fringe and learn about their sufferings.

But I do agree with somebody's statement that it's mostly men of fighting age who are fleeing to Europe, leaving their family behind -and that part did get me stumped.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby Barnsley » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:38 am

the lynx wrote:And then the metro station got hit. Casualty is now at 30.

God bless them.


I fear someones god has already blessed them and the less that God id involved the better
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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby Barnsley » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:43 am

TMD wrote:Clearly, unlike Singapore's immigration policy, EU has basically got themselves screwed into a deep sh*t situation that they cannot exit without massive popular swing to the right.


So the extreme left is noted for its tolerance also is it??

I am pretty sure our friends towards the left have put many more to death than their right wing brothers.

A lot of folk get very confused with left/right these days as people of the extreme persuasions wear many hats.

The racist nutcrackers in the UK are considered "of the right" when if you read their "other" policies they are all of the left.

Do you think the "English Defence League" and UKIP are free-marketeers when it comes to economic policy.
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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 11:11 am

bgd wrote:I think if I was in the situation of undertaking a perilous journey I would do it myself and send for my family once I was settled. Of course that would mean that the family would be in no danger by remaining at home, which implies an economic migrant.

And if I was a Jihadist, I would also travel without my family.


Agreed, that idea of "I would go first ... " doesn't apply, considering how dangerous and deadly back home is .. I am pretty confused if the majority of the able bodied men of fighting age are really economic migrants, or they just decided to save themselves, and make a new family once settled ..

I guess, and am not implying anything - maybe in some places women and children are cheap .... cheap enough to dump the old ones and get a new wife and children.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby JR8 » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 3:21 pm

calugaruvaxile wrote:why would europe accept more middle eastern economic migrants, when they can't even deal with the ones they already have (and which are completely ghettoed, as opposite to integrated) i can not understand


Initially it did so for perceived humanitarian reasons. But when economic migrants saw effectively open borders they decided to make the journey too.
This together with the fact that Germany is the self-appointed top-dog in the EU and at the political level they are still bent-double with guilt over their genocide in WW2. So for Germany the government assuage their historic guilt by 'offering sanctuary to asylum seekers'. They also look at said arrivals as a useful way to a) re-populate the former East Germany, b) have new arrivals grateful to Merkel and her party, so voting for her and keeping her in power for ever. It's entirely cynical.

Trouble is most don't want to end up in Germany, esp the former East Germany. It is not [ermmm] the most welcoming of places for foreigners anyway. So Merkel is pi$$ing off those who already live in East Germany and see their home towns being used as convenient dumping grounds for people who bring social problems and will likely never integrate. This leads to for example the rise in neo-Nazi rallies etc.

The end goal for the economic migrants themselves is a rich northern EU country where they hit the equivalent of the lottery jackpot; free everything. This is why you see them passing through say Turkey, Greece etc - where they would have safety, and a far closer cultural affinity, BUT zero or almost zero benefits - and heading for the UK, Sweden etc. But when they land up in the latter, they tend to ghettoise 'amongst their own kind', it's not that they're made to. Neither do EU cities have the likes of SGs historic dismantling of the kampongs, to ensure such mono-cultural ghettoes cannot come about.

Plenty of immigrants are entirely integrated, but it is they that have set out to achieve that. You can't force them to integrate against their will. And unfortunately it seems the majority of these recent arrivals are culturally unable and unwilling to integrate. And what with the northern EU possibilities of 'free everything' for life, they don't have to either. [I'll leave it there].
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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby calugaruvaxile » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:51 pm

JR8 wrote:Plenty of immigrants are entirely integrated, but it is they that have set out to achieve that. You can't force them to integrate against their will. And unfortunately it seems the majority of these recent arrivals are culturally unable and unwilling to integrate. And what with the northern EU possibilities of 'free everything' for life, they don't have to either. [I'll leave it there].


i bolded out what i believe is the main story (the way i see it). but there is one other component, which is too "politically correct" to discuss, it seems. the constant positive discrimination in favor of these guys, and the constant negative discrimination against residents. you have a family of 6, and you're an unemployed gambler. if you're midlle-eastern, the state gives you money. a lot. if you're white, the state takes your kids away. same as the racial discrimination in the us: you cannot say "the blacks do this", but you can say "the whites do this".

this replies to ecurelix remark above: the current policies in the eu are such that they encourage the migrants to breed, not the locals. the locals have to work and pay taxes for the stay-home migrants. guess who has the resources to breed! so this shit about "ageing population" does not stand.

however, i can clearly see what's gonna happen in the mid-term future: there will be a new europe emerging. a far-right (curiously, united) europe. very soon, i'm afraid this jihad will result in ethnic cleansing. the rule of action and reaction, as simple as that.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby calugaruvaxile » Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:53 pm

TMD wrote:Clearly, unlike Singapore's immigration policy, EU has basically got themselves screwed


this is the best joke today!! eu can survive without all the immigrants. you losers would starv as you can't even cook your own food anymore

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby ecureilx » Thu, 24 Mar 2016 9:15 am

calugaruvaxile wrote:this is the best joke today!! eu can survive without all the immigrants. you losers would starv as you can't even cook your own food anymore


We know you have a lot of love for Singapore. But truth be told, a country like Singapore decided to prune 50% of foreigners, and yes, like Singapore, they needed foreign help to even flush the toilets.

Guess what happened ? Nothing - nada, Zilch.

The country stumbled for a five of years or so and is now doing fine.

All Singapore needs is a strong willed leader to do the amputation, and things will get fixed by themselves after that.

That you need all the foreigners here or Singapore will die - is a myth. It may struggle, terribly, but doubt Singapore will die.

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Re: 2 explosions in Brussels airport this afternoon

Postby nakatago » Thu, 24 Mar 2016 9:59 am

ecureilx wrote: It may struggle, terribly, but doubt Singapore will die.


And only because I'm already out, I'd like to see that: how Singapore will fare if all foreigners left. No transition; everyone who's not "true-blue Singaporean"* just packs up their bags and caught flights away.

*includes all naturalized citizens in the last 15 years.


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