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Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby PNGMK » Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:37 pm

They are now valid for 5 years. Want to annoy a subcon? Show him the list of countries on the back that you can enter without a visa... (19 on my current one including some hard ones like China and VN).

The good news is that I believe the USA has finally opened up applications for US citizens. Be warned though the paper work is horrendous.
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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby taxico » Thu, 07 Apr 2016 4:56 pm

piece of cake if you are already on GE (or nexus?).

but the US ABTC is not all that convenient... lots of explaining at passport control about why i am using a card with zero endorsements at the back.

$70 worth of win-some lose-some, IMO, but a better deal now that it's got a 5 year validity.
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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Thu, 07 Apr 2016 9:02 pm

remind me to say something nice to you in a lift again! ... jk! congrats..
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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby ScoobyDoes » Sat, 09 Apr 2016 11:17 am

I was surprised a couple of weeks ago seeing Myanmar is not included, as part of ASEAN......I have my first trip there in a couple of weeks and was hoping to avoid the USD70 visa fee.....ah well, through the years have successfully saved Vietnam, Indonesia and China fees, plus the lost passport page.

It's great whizzing through immigration :) but since I got my new one in the middle of last year, still only three years.
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Re: RE: Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby ecureilx » Sat, 09 Apr 2016 1:01 pm

ScoobyDoes wrote:I was surprised a couple of weeks ago seeing Myanmar is not included, as part of ASEAN......I have my first trip there in a couple of weeks and was hoping to avoid the USD70 visa fee.....ah well, through the years have successfully saved Vietnam, Indonesia and China fees, plus the lost passport page.

It's great whizzing through immigration :) but since I got my new one in the middle of last year, still only three years.

Myanmar nationals need visa in advance to visit Singapore.. even though both are in ASEAN. That says something I guess.

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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby MikeJones » Sat, 09 Apr 2016 4:06 pm

The A in ABTC is for APEC not ASEAN, Myanmar is not a member of APEC, same goes for Cambodia and Laos who are ASEAN members but not APEC.

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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby PNGMK » Mon, 11 Apr 2016 9:26 am

MikeJones wrote:The A in ABTC is for APEC not ASEAN, Myanmar is not a member of APEC, same goes for Cambodia and Laos who are ASEAN members but not APEC.


Yes, it's easy to get the two confused and now with ASEAN immigration queues hard to remember that the A is Asean does NOT include Australia (or does it?).
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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby nakatago » Mon, 11 Apr 2016 12:53 pm

PNGMK wrote:
MikeJones wrote:The A in ABTC is for APEC not ASEAN, Myanmar is not a member of APEC, same goes for Cambodia and Laos who are ASEAN members but not APEC.


Yes, it's easy to get the two confused and now with ASEAN immigration queues hard to remember that the A is Asean does NOT include Australia (or does it?).


The a's stand for "Association" and "Asia," as in Southeast Asia.

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Re: Got my new ABTC card - suck it subconns...

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Mon, 11 Apr 2016 1:17 pm

nakatago wrote:
PNGMK wrote:
MikeJones wrote:The A in ABTC is for APEC not ASEAN, Myanmar is not a member of APEC, same goes for Cambodia and Laos who are ASEAN members but not APEC.


Yes, it's easy to get the two confused and now with ASEAN immigration queues hard to remember that the A is Asean does NOT include Australia (or does it?).


The a's stand for "Association" and "Asia," as in Southeast Asia.


Also Ang Moh's in Asia.
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