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Post by Wd40 » Mon, 07 Mar 2016 9:32 pm

rajagainstthemachine wrote:Bangalore is better than KL.but then again going back to Bangalore would be option Z-
My advice is think long term and choose a proper liberal, developed country. The younger you are the more points you get for PR. Australia, Canada and New Zealand are still open for PR. After 40 it gets tougher to get PR.

Place like Dubai and Singapore are only good as long as you are productive.

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Post by rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:13 am

I got my EP extended for 2 more years....so i've got that out of the way at least for now.
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Post by rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:15 am

Wd40 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote:Bangalore is better than KL.but then again going back to Bangalore would be option Z-
My advice is think long term and choose a proper liberal, developed country. The younger you are the more points you get for PR. Australia, Canada and New Zealand are still open for PR. After 40 it gets tougher to get PR.

Place like Dubai and Singapore are only good as long as you are productive.

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canada i think would be cool, a little too cool, i was there in Jan and it was freezing, i don't think my skin can handle that weather, it becomes extremely dry and cracked
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Post by nakatago » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:19 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote: canada i think would be cool, a little too cool, i was there in Jan and it was freezing, i don't think my skin can handle that weather, it becomes extremely dry and cracked
Australia then would be the same, except scorching and hot.
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Post by rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:25 am

nakatago wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote: canada i think would be cool, a little too cool, i was there in Jan and it was freezing, i don't think my skin can handle that weather, it becomes extremely dry and cracked
Australia then would be the same, except scorching and hot.
Australia is ok and i could possibly consider that and I might even have a good chance..I do have a good chance with canada, i have relatives there and there is some extra points in your favor if you have relatives.
btw i'm off to your native country next week, :D
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Post by ecureilx » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:32 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:btw i'm off to your native country next week, :D
Don't get caught in the Good Friday and the holidays preceding and succeeding the Public holiday there :o

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Post by Wd40 » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 10:47 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
rajagainstthemachine wrote:Bangalore is better than KL.but then again going back to Bangalore would be option Z-
My advice is think long term and choose a proper liberal, developed country. The younger you are the more points you get for PR. Australia, Canada and New Zealand are still open for PR. After 40 it gets tougher to get PR.

Place like Dubai and Singapore are only good as long as you are productive.

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canada i think would be cool, a little too cool, i was there in Jan and it was freezing, i don't think my skin can handle that weather, it becomes extremely dry and cracked
Yupp, my skin too had become very dry and itchy during my Amsterdam trip last 2 weeks, I am still recovering from it.

Not sure if it is just a matter of time before you get used to it or whether it's a permanent thing.

Both Australia and New Zealand are good. I know many of my colleagues from my previous company who moved to NZ and have made it their home.

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Post by nakatago » Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:00 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:btw i'm off to your native country next week, :D
Better clarify that (through PM :P). I've been away too long. :cool:
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Post by Wd40 » Wed, 16 Mar 2016 9:36 pm

http://www.sbr.com.sg/hr-education/news ... crisis-mom

http://www.sbr.com.sg/hr-education/news ... -warns-mom

There is lot of gloom on SBR.com.sg

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Re: Everyone I know is leaving or already left

Post by Wd40 » Sat, 19 Mar 2016 10:52 am

This is what Anton Kriel, from Million Dollar traders has to say about West v/s Singapore:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-love-m ... nton-kreil

"So if you want to live an ever decreasing relative standard of living, get relatively poorer on a global scale, struggle in business because your great ideas and hard work pay for everyone else in your society to live for free in their pretend jobs, instead of you and your family flourishing from your enterprise, if you want to work as a "self employed business person" but really you are working for the government from Jan 1st till October 30th as an enabler of the poverty trap due to effective tax rates, if you want your kids to experience declining educational standards, inherit $1.5mln of government debt obligations in the US (25% owned by China) and $550,000 USD in the UK, let them grow up in a financially and morally bankrupt society and for you to spend the rest of your life moaning about it from your cubicle bashing your keyboard and trying to fight it, then stay where you are and stay West."

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Post by Wd40 » Sat, 19 Mar 2016 10:57 am

This is what Anton Kriel, from Million Dollar traders has to say about West v/s Singapore:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/i-love-m ... nton-kreil

"So if you want to live an ever decreasing relative standard of living, get relatively poorer on a global scale, struggle in business because your great ideas and hard work pay for everyone else in your society to live for free in their pretend jobs, instead of you and your family flourishing from your enterprise, if you want to work as a "self employed business person" but really you are working for the government from Jan 1st till October 30th as an enabler of the poverty trap due to effective tax rates, if you want your kids to experience declining educational standards, inherit $1.5mln of government debt obligations in the US (25% owned by China) and $550,000 USD in the UK, let them grow up in a financially and morally bankrupt society and for you to spend the rest of your life moaning about it from your cubicle bashing your keyboard and trying to fight it, then stay where you are and stay West."


According to his signature, he lives in Sentosa :)

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Post by JR8 » Sat, 19 Mar 2016 7:44 pm

Kreil selling the FT>SG dream which is now fast approaching it's twilight. He's 20/+ years too late to onto a 'new thing'. Wonder what visa he got, and if based on a business plan what that was...

p.s. Interesting he has no entry on Wiki
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Post by maneo » Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:38 am

JR8 wrote:Kreil selling the FT>SG dream which is now fast approaching it's twilight. He's 20/+ years too late to onto a 'new thing'. Wonder what visa he got, and if based on a business plan what that was...

p.s. Interesting he has no entry on Wiki
Online info says he is an ex-Goldman trader who set up & manages the Institute of Trading and Portfolio Management. He also was the group manager for the 2009 UK reality TV show, Million Dollar Traders.

Yes, it is a bit late for the SG dream.
On top of that, in the isolated community he lives in he probably doesn't get to experience much of the "real" life in SG that can be frustrating for other expats.

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Post by Strong Eagle » Sun, 20 Mar 2016 1:43 am

maneo wrote:Yes, it is a bit late for the SG dream.
On top of that, in the isolated community he lives in he probably doesn't get to experience much of the "real" life in SG that can be frustrating for other expats.
True that... behaviors of Singaporeans that merely seemed quaint the first few years really began to irritate the crap out of me by year 8.

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Post by Wd40 » Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:04 pm

There are 3 main things that he pointed out:
1) proximity to China
2) better education
3) lower taxes

I think the 3rd point is the most compelling. As a business, probably you can save tons in taxes. You know HSBC considered moving from UK to Hong Kong and that was recent, and then UK govt had to give some tax concessions to keep them in UK. So I guess there is some merit in what he is saying.


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