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Re: Hong Kong

Post by TMD » Sun, 31 Jan 2016 9:43 pm

earthfriendly wrote:The overreaching overlord :cry:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hong-kong-ex ... 39459.html
...as reported by a freelancer who was a toddler in 1997...and today views the World like he is still one.

Time for him to grow up :wink:
A century and a half of colonial rule had built Hong Kong as a freewheeling, free-market metropolis; China was an authoritarian gerontocracy with a plain record of squashing dissent with lethal force.

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by Aragorn2000 » Mon, 01 Feb 2016 12:28 pm

TMD wrote:
earthfriendly wrote:The overreaching overlord :cry:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hong-kong-ex ... 39459.html
...as reported by a freelancer who was a toddler in 1997...and today views the World like he is still one.

Time for him to grow up :wink:
A century and a half of colonial rule had built Hong Kong as a freewheeling, free-market metropolis; China was an authoritarian gerontocracy with a plain record of squashing dissent with lethal force.

Your point is?

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by calugaruvaxile » Mon, 01 Feb 2016 11:51 pm

his point is: dictatorship is good (just look as sg, number one in the galaxy); honkies are just idiots to want freedom. oh, he has another point about the ang moh who should go/stay home, as the eeeevil british colonizers, the ones who left sg a fishing village (as you may know, the japanese occupied sg in ww2 to get their hands on sg's fishing fleet).

don't try to understand/argue tmd or any purely educated sg. to argue with the standard product of sg education is like having a rational debate with a hitlejugend about the arian breed

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by JR8 » Tue, 02 Feb 2016 4:39 am

Hehehe.... :-D
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Re: Hong Kong

Post by Aragorn2000 » Tue, 02 Feb 2016 10:37 am

calugaruvaxile wrote:his point is: dictatorship is good (just look as sg, number one in the galaxy); honkies are just idiots to want freedom. oh, he has another point about the ang moh who should go/stay home, as the eeeevil british colonizers, the ones who left sg a fishing village (as you may know, the japanese occupied sg in ww2 to get their hands on sg's fishing fleet).

don't try to understand/argue tmd or any purely educated sg. to argue with the standard product of sg education is like having a rational debate with a hitlejugend about the arian breed
I wish there was a "like" button on this forum :lol:

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by earthfriendly » Tue, 09 Feb 2016 2:29 am

Not directly related to Hong Kong but its overlord.

"But this year, the criticism was so overwhelming that CCTV's official Weibo account temporarily shut the comment section while live-tweeting the show."

"I give 10 points to its nonsense; 10 points to the awkwardness; 10 points to singing the praises; 10 points to glorifying the king; 10 points to brainwash; 10 points to propaganda; 10 points to lip sync; 10 points to the lacking IQ; 10 points to humorlessness; 10 points to shamelessness. 100 points in total it is," commented @Youshiyou.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/08/asia/ ... ef=edition

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by TMD » Wed, 10 Feb 2016 1:43 am

earthfriendly wrote:Not directly related to Hong Kong but its overlord.

"But this year, the criticism was so overwhelming that CCTV's official Weibo account temporarily shut the comment section while live-tweeting the show."

"I give 10 points to its nonsense; 10 points to the awkwardness; 10 points to singing the praises; 10 points to glorifying the king; 10 points to brainwash; 10 points to propaganda; 10 points to lip sync; 10 points to the lacking IQ; 10 points to humorlessness; 10 points to shamelessness. 100 points in total it is," commented @Youshiyou.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/02/08/asia/ ... ef=edition
You missed the part "Web users responded to Lv's self-evaluation with a sense of humor...."
A humor courtesy of CNN's selective reporting..

Yeah, you are right - this has nothing to do with HK :mrgreen:

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by TMD » Wed, 10 Feb 2016 2:15 am

Aragorn2000 wrote:
TMD wrote:
earthfriendly wrote:The overreaching overlord :cry:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/hong-kong-ex ... 39459.html
...as reported by a freelancer who was a toddler in 1997...and today views the World like he is still one.

Time for him to grow up :wink:
A century and a half of colonial rule had built Hong Kong as a freewheeling, free-market metropolis; China was an authoritarian gerontocracy with a plain record of squashing dissent with lethal force.

Your point is?
Well..its quite obvious, really.

If Mr Jenkins had been a little bit more mature, he certainly would not have displayed that usual "expat attitude" that one usually observed when being guest of a country.
https://twitter.com/pnashjenkins/status ... 5699873792

or..we can, in his defense, assume he was just "joking" around. :wink:

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by JR8 » Wed, 10 Feb 2016 3:54 am

TMD wrote:Well..its quite obvious, really.
If Mr Jenkins had been a little bit more mature, he certainly would not have displayed that usual "expat attitude" that one usually observed when being guest of a country.
or..we can, in his defense, assume he was just "joking" around. :wink:
If he's British do you think he might have inherited some pride in what his ancestors helped create in the first place, that wouldn't exist as is without them? And perhaps saddened to see how post-independence they have had some of the values that were a successful foundation stone removed?

There was another poster earlier pondering how SG can successfully compete in the 21st century. Maybe restoring the foundation stones of freedom of speech and freedom of expression? I'm not sure if the leap from a manufacturing based economy to a knowledge based economy can occur without them. But how to tolerate... nurture... nay encourage such within an autocracy? :-k
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Re: Hong Kong

Post by calugaruvaxile » Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:29 pm

JR8 wrote:
If he's British do you think he might have inherited some pride in what his ancestors helped create in the first place, that wouldn't exist as is without them? And perhaps saddened to see how post-independence they have had some of the values that were a successful foundation stone removed?

There was another poster earlier pondering how SG can successfully compete in the 21st century. Maybe restoring the foundation stones of freedom of speech and freedom of expression? I'm not sure if the leap from a manufacturing based economy to a knowledge based economy can occur without them. But how to tolerate... nurture... nay encourage such within an autocracy? :-k
easily!!! the sg gov't will declare it as it's objective for the next 5 years. a roadmap will be designed. every 3 months a govt official (specifically hired for this job) will check the milestones. after 5 years, the objective will be 110% reached (as it will be mentioned by the pmlee during the ndp speech) and the previously-mentioned govt official will be promoted.

i'm amazed you thought sg can't handle these ... mmm ... puny things

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by earthfriendly » Thu, 11 Feb 2016 8:25 am

For some Singaporeans, the fear and stigma of being "poor" is so deeply ingrained. They will avoid it at all cost. It is a no brainer to give up a little bit of your own freedom and sanctity of life just to gain a little bit of economic advantage. A common sentiment with many of the older Hong Kongers who do not understand why the young would participate in the protests and risk their own economic well being and safety.

America was built with ideals like this.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by Barnsley » Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:15 am

earthfriendly wrote:For some Singaporeans, the fear and stigma of being "poor" is so deeply ingrained. They will avoid it at all cost. It is a no brainer to give up a little bit of your own freedom and sanctity of life just to gain a little bit of economic advantage. A common sentiment with many of the older Hong Kongers who do not understand why the young would participate in the protests and risk their own economic well being and safety.

America was built with ideals like this.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
What a culture eh!

So easy to control :D
Life is short, paddle harder!!

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by earthfriendly » Fri, 12 Feb 2016 12:29 am

Lol. Yeah lah, if I am a govt, I also like, just dangle dangle some carrot and then drive a little bit fear into their hearts. And then remind them "do you really want to be poor?" Should get the job done. Easy peasy :P

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Re: Hong Kong

Post by earthfriendly » Fri, 12 Feb 2016 12:59 am

TMD wrote: A humor courtesy of CNN's selective reporting..
CNN is not the only one who does this. Every media comes with its own bias. And the worst culprits being countries like Singapore and China. Forget about making anti govt stand. If a country and its govt is inherently good, there is no need to engage in propaganda, pumping up the ego of its own citizens, we are number 1, we are so so great. They can just let the the inherent goodness speak for itself. When govt has to resorts to such antics, makes you wonder what inadequacies are they trying to cover up.

Anway, there is a short clip on the link on the CNY celebration. So you can watch it for yourself and be your own judge.

A rude awakening when the propaganda at home does not pan out on the world stage.

"The following article was recently published on a website devoted to discussing advanced manufacturing in China. It later could not be found on that site, possibly having been censored or removed by the author. "

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1711073 ... ring-fair/

In China, when a train got derailed, the govt just bury the evidence. No investigation needed. I guess it helps to safe some money for the country.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/j ... -up-claims

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