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PR Rejected

Postby mystic_river » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 3:19 pm

Hello everyone,

Friend of mine applied for PR and got rejected. Just uploading his profile here:

Male, Single
Race: Malaysian Chinese (Born in Malaysia)
Nationality: Australian (moved to Australia at 12 years old and and gained Aussie citizenship)
Age: 25
Salary: SGD3500
Education: Bachelors from Aussie uni
Job: Civil Engineer, on EP for 2 years

I am guessing his Aussie citizenship is an issue here? I am not really sure. Either way, I actually thought he had a good chance to get it.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby Barnsley » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 4:19 pm

mystic_river wrote:Hello everyone,

Friend of mine applied for PR and got rejected. Just uploading his profile here:

Male, Single
Race: Malaysian Chinese (Born in Malaysia)
Nationality: Australian (moved to Australia at 12 years old and and gained Aussie citizenship)
Age: 25
Salary: SGD3500
Education: Bachelors from Aussie uni
Job: Civil Engineer, on EP for 2 years

I am guessing his Aussie citizenship is an issue here? I am not really sure. Either way, I actually thought he had a good chance to get it.


Only been here 2 yrs ....

What the letter say?

Also on his 2nd nationality at 25 .... Not looking like much commitment to one country.
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Re: PR Rejected

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 4:49 pm

Frankly I'd have thought he would have had a chance as well, being ethnic M'sian Chinese albeit, that would have been considerably diluted with 11 of the last 13 years in Australia (since the age of 12). The only thing I see that may have been a detriment would have been the low salary for an engineer with a minimum of 2 years experience. However, I know, in the past, that was a prime opportunity for Australians with civil engineering degrees. Singaporeans don't like civil engineering unless they can be strictly project engineers and not have to get out in the mud an get the little pinkies and white shirts dirty. To them a civil engineer only sits in an airconed site office or in the contractors main office downtown. Dog forbid somebody ask them to go out on site. Aussie fresh grads would come up here, share a condo with 4 to a condo on a two year contract with a local building contractor (either real heavy duty civil or condo construction. Lot's up here during the initial mrt lines (N-S & E-W lines). I know, I placed a lot of them into their positions. They would come up, work for local scale plus a small housing allowance (meaning that they had no choice but to share), spend two year working for an "international" firm in a foreign country then return to Aus and take jobs back in Aus and drawing 50% more than those in their schooling cohorts because of the int'l exposure. However, today, trying that for PR, I don't think it will work due to the salary being too low. At least that's my take on it. Add to that, I reckon being single might be an issue as well because he's young, fresh engineer, already working on a project overseas, I reckon he will follow the Civil Infrastructure projects worldwide and I'd be willing to guess that also occured in some ICA officer's mind as well. Though I could be wrong.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby mystic_river » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 6:42 pm

Ah. Fair enough. His younger brother's PR also got rejected. Same profile except for his job sector and salary, which I am not sure of. Either way, thanks for the input!

Letter was "the kiss of death". Although, it did say it is unsuccessful at this point of time. Not sure if that means anything.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 9:09 pm

That means there still an opening. I'd give it 2 more years and at least $1500 more salary/mo and try again. "at this point of time" is definitely not slamming the door shut. Because he's ethnically Chinese he's still a contender but will have to show he wants it.

I think ICA has reworded those letters as there have been some who were persistent long enough that they did in fact, eventually successfully obtain PR (but I don't know of any personally - only the odd 3 or 4th hand anecdotal evidence of some on this board. Or those who have very favourable changes to their profiles (like one with the 50% increase in salary for instance). So I'm guessing that they are practicing saying "never say never again".

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby samagatha » Sat, 30 Jan 2016 5:42 pm

I don't think salary is a big consideration. Mine also got rejected just yesterday. 9 years working here. Applied initially with spouse only after a year's work and less than a month married. Got rejected. Applied again 2 months ago, after 7 years of last rejection. Salary almost doubled than the last time. Still rejected.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 01 Feb 2016 11:35 am

It's one of the big considerations, but it not the only one. There are others and when thrown into a basket, if the weight doesn't add up, well, it just doesn't add up. Could be a number of things. Not just salary.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby mystic_river » Thu, 08 Mar 2018 1:48 pm

Just thought I'll update this thread. His PR got approved last month. Applied with a salary of SGD 4200.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby Siv » Thu, 08 Mar 2018 3:28 pm

mystic_river wrote:Just thought I'll update this thread. His PR got approved last month. Applied with a salary of SGD 4200.


Yeah, he just probably was too new back then in 2016.

More salary now, a couple more NOA's....and he's right there today.

Interesting this whole PR application process. I am about to embark on it in a couple of months.

Another statistic to throw into the mix. Haha.

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Re: PR Rejected

Postby BBCDoc » Thu, 08 Mar 2018 8:55 pm

samagatha wrote:I don't think salary is a big consideration. Mine also got rejected just yesterday. 9 years working here. Applied initially with spouse only after a year's work and less than a month married. Got rejected. Applied again 2 months ago, after 7 years of last rejection. Salary almost doubled than the last time. Still rejected.


Salary almost doubled after 7 years? If the base was low, then maybe not impressive enough.

Try again after making solid contributions to Singapore in some way.


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