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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby x9200 » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 9:18 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:
x9200 wrote:$80 per vial is a cheap perfume? Or you give a credit to OP for his friend's stealing skills and think it was 2l per bottle (and that's only why he got caught falling under 10% mentioned by Ecu)?


no but i think they all smell like shit.

Not all, but the problem starts when you have to buy one. After you try more than 3 you are dead and saturated for the next 30 min. But next time try some Davidoff's (classic Coolwater) or DKNY.

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They are very subtle. I like women wearing them. The problem is that many (especially older/mid-age) women like all the heavy kinds including all the Chanels. Also, many Indian ladies seem to prefer heavy rose scent based ones.

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby PNGMK » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 9:38 am

OP - the IO investigates the case but it's the Attorney General (Governments Lawyer) who recommends whether to prosecute or not. These cases are pretty much guaranteed to be prosecuted according to my legal friends here. There's really no risk for the AGC to prosecute - a win is guaranteed.
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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby ecureilx » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:12 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:people actually steal that cheap ass perfume shit that mustafa put out on their shelves?
seriously?
should have heeded that chinese looking policeman mannequin or whatever.

serves you right ffkr...

P.S hic! i've had one more beer than i normally should have..


To give credit to Mustafa, they do sell expensive stuff to. I am sure the guy here is a connoisseur to have gone for the most expensive stuff in the Place - he does know his perfume (Note to IO, take a look at his other perfumes :D )

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x9200 wrote:$80 per vial is a cheap perfume? Or you give a credit to OP for his friend's stealing skills and think it was 2l per bottle (and that's only why he got caught falling under 10% mentioned by Ecu)?


no but i think they all smell like shit.


Indian shop selling cheapo perfume ? Nah, can't be that bad, as we have seen a Filipino risking it all and having a go.
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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:00 am

Seems to me that if you were in a shop lifting frame of mind for perfumes, Tang's, Isetan, or Takashimaya in Ngee Ann City would be a lot easier marks.

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby x9200 » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:14 am

He was probably in a shop lifting frame of anything small enough and expensive enough.

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby ecureilx » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:14 am

PNGMK wrote:OP - the IO investigates the case but it's the Attorney General (Governments Lawyer) who recommends whether to prosecute or not. These cases are pretty much guaranteed to be prosecuted according to my legal friends here. There's really no risk for the AGC to prosecute - a win is guaranteed.


In view of the following, would the guy get a warning or .. he's gonna be put through the whole process?

And in Singapore law, can the victim (Mustafa in this case) insist on pressing charges ?

In his statement, he declared that he tried stealing the perfumes as he planned to resell them online for extra cash as he is running low on funds.

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby ecureilx » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 11:20 am

x9200 wrote:He was probably in a shop lifting frame of anything small enough and expensive enough.


If only he looked harder in Mustafa, he may have seen the original Rolex for sale - costing 4 figures and upwards #-o :twisted:

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 5:18 pm

Most of the perfumes that Mustafa sell smell terrible, sure they have the popular brands too and they are more pricier than some of the normal malls like Isetan or whatever.. Mont blanc is what I normally use, not expensive usually 60-80$ or what ever, but then I get my perfume in duty free..
Back to original post, OP missed the gold dept and the watch dept, looks like he wasn't the smartest thief on the planet.
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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby JR8 » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 6:06 pm

x9200 wrote:They are very subtle. I like women wearing them.


I misread that as 'They are very subtle. I like wearing them' - and almost choked on my cornflakes! :o :lol:
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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 6:24 pm

Maybe he does..it could be a well kept secret.. JK
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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby x9200 » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 6:41 pm

I't not a secret. Whenever I wear woman's dress or lingerie I always sprinkle myself with DKNE "Delicious".

What reminded me about this old joke:
So my wife said "take off my shirt".
So I did as she said and took off her shirt.
Then she said, "Take off my skirt." I continued and took off her skirt.
"Take off my shoes." Once again, I did as she said and I took off her shoes.
"Now my hose, bra, and panties." And lastly, I took them off.
Then she looked at me and said, "I don't want to catch you wearing my things ever again."

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby JR8 » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 6:45 pm

Hoo-mama, the visuals I'm getting are scary! :lol:
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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 7:01 pm

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby PNGMK » Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:58 pm

ecureilx wrote:
PNGMK wrote:OP - the IO investigates the case but it's the Attorney General (Governments Lawyer) who recommends whether to prosecute or not. These cases are pretty much guaranteed to be prosecuted according to my legal friends here. There's really no risk for the AGC to prosecute - a win is guaranteed.


In view of the following, would the guy get a warning or .. he's gonna be put through the whole process?

And in Singapore law, can the victim (Mustafa in this case) insist on pressing charges ?

In his statement, he declared that he tried stealing the perfumes as he planned to resell them online for extra cash as he is running low on funds.


1. He's going to be charged.
2. No - in criminal cases in Singapore it's the AGC who decides to charge. "Pressing charges" is an American concept. In most Brit based systems it's the cops or AG who decides. The whole issue of avoiding ending up in prison is to derail the process at every opp. So for future ref:

1. Picked up by loss control in Mustafa, Run/Hide/Bribe the guard and don't bloody talk....
2. Mustafa call the police. Don't talk. Admit nothing. While in Singapore there is no explicit right to silence it's still your own mouth and you choose to open it or not.
3. Police will arrest you and take you to a police station (Tanglin). Keep your mouth shut. Take mental notes. Don't admit anything. Without a confession Mustafa will need to provide statements/video. It's possible they'll stuff this up in which case I/O may choose NOT to refer case to AGC.
4. AGC looks at evidence. No written statement of confession (refuse to write one)???? That makes his job 1000 times harder EVEN IN SINGAPORE. He may just let it slide. Don't be fooled by the cops - they may choose to LIE and say something even at this point to trap you into a confession.
5. AGC decides to charge you and a court date is set. OK this is where you need to think on your feet. THERE IS NO QUESTION that Singapore courts penalize those who waste their time. If Mustafa have enough evidence (sworn statement from their Loss control Guys, Video) then admit guilt and find some mitigating circumstances. IF they don't proffer evidence then get a barrister to argue the case. At some point before the court hearing this decision needs to be made as determined by the prosecuting brief.

DO you need a lawyer (solicitor/barrister). Yes - if only for advice on the system and how it works. If you're going to plead guilty he may be able to help please mitigating circumstances.

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Re: Friend caught shoplifting in Mustafa

Postby ecureilx » Wed, 20 Jan 2016 9:05 am

PNGMK wrote:DO you need a lawyer (solicitor/barrister). Yes - if only for advice on the system and how it works. If you're going to plead guilty he may be able to help please mitigating circumstances.


Interesting.

In the few cases I know, and specifically, one was a guy in the wrong place at the wrong time and falsely accused, and the other - a wanna be good Samaritan - also falsely accused, the cops line of questioning had been 'guilty until proven innocent'.

And though in both cases the fellows managed to prove their innocence, the second fellow lost a lot of privilege at his work place, while the case was going on.

Vs, in an Asian country nearby, a robber swallowed a gold chain, and the cops forced fed the fellow and got the chain out, and the first thing the robber said is "NOT GUILTY", and the cops had to accept the Not guilty plea before going further. And being 'not guilty', they couldn't legally hold him.

Singapore is the worst place to commit crimes. And that also makes safety tops !


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