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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby sgstrait » Wed, 13 Jan 2016 1:22 pm

Doubt it. All they want to know is the fixed monthly income, regardless of its components.

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby smk77 » Wed, 13 Jan 2016 1:29 pm

My Fixed component is less now, and others are variable components as per company norms.
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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby sgstrait » Wed, 13 Jan 2016 1:34 pm

Was your original statement to the MOM that your fixed component was $7K per month? If so, are you now admitting that the fixed component is actually just $6K? At best you are giving them even more reason to reject, and at worst you are admitting that your original application was false.

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby smk77 » Wed, 13 Jan 2016 1:42 pm

Employer is justifying why the candidate is given this salary with revised salary structure.My original application salary and current processing salary are same.

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby sgstrait » Wed, 13 Jan 2016 1:45 pm

They will ask a simple question to which they will expect a simple answer: How much is your fixed monthly salary? The form specifically asks for this and explains that fixed excludes variable. They will ask why have you changed the fixed amount? Which one is true?

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby smk77 » Wed, 13 Jan 2016 2:01 pm

ok, thanks for your inputs..

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EP Rejected!! Self Assesment EPOL says Increase Salary! Need Advise

Postby abhi200211 » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 3:29 pm

:???: EP Rejected!!
Self-assessment tool (SATS) EPOL states Increase Salary!! Need Advice

My Credentials!
- Me Indian National
- Existing EP holder in Existing company-
- Current EP Validity till Nov'16. Working same company in 5.2 years continuously in Automotive component Sales (Semiconductor).
- Existing Company applied renewal EP in same Salary(4K) but reject.
- Now Did SATS Self-assessment tool and found in 4K Salary only eligible for S pass. Further if increase Salary 4.3K eligible for both S/EP pass.
- Japanese Company- Global recognition- Small sales office in Singapore.
- Company size: 5 Local staff + 1 Malaysian staff + 1 EP Japanese Director
- SO far, No Official appeal made for EP since director away from office. Coming back this week.
- My company has S pass quota but I want to keep my EP status.

Now, What should I concern with my HR.
1. repeal with 4.3 K Salary for Employment pass.
2. What is the procedure for repeal in MOM
3. What others info I should consider my HR to check ? Pls advise...

Tks in advance. :???: Abi

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby dynamic.dante » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 3:58 pm

Correct me if im wrong.
Is your salary the same as the one last time you had your EP renewed? (2-3 years ago) ?


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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby abhi200211 » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 4:31 pm

Yes, Salary is same. the one last time I had got my EP in 2014.

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby BBCWatcher » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 4:47 pm

For reference, according to the Ministry of Manpower total wage compensation (including bonuses) rose an average of 4.9% in 2014 and another 4.0% in 2015. Pay increases penetrated fairly well into lower income quintiles, too. Had your $4,000/month salary merely grown at the same rate as the national average, and for only those two years, you should be receiving $4,364/month now. (The 2016 average increase will likely be in the 2 to 3 percent range since labor markets are not as tight.)

Also, the Ministry of Manpower just announced an increase in the minimum fixed monthly salary to qualify for an Employment Pass, effective January 1, 2017. The minimum is increasing from $3,300 to $3,600 (about +9.1%).

So yes, it's reasonable to conclude you (and your employer) have got a low salary problem if your salary hasn't moved up. The Ministry of Manpower evidently thinks you're being underpaid...or that you're being paid only what you're worth (or even more than you're worth), and that's not valuable enough to keep you in Singapore given the pool of talented resident workers available.

I think you've got the right ideas on how to proceed, assuming your employer wants to try to keep you (and at a more market-oriented price).

What's wrong with an S Pass, by the way? The difference for the worker (you) is that your employer is required to provide at least minimum medical insurance, something that's not a requirement with an EP. Is there any other difference that concerns you?

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby abhi200211 » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 5:11 pm

:mad: Thanks for detailed explanation BBC Watcher.
Can you share some links Average salary rose to 4.95% and 4% respectively. Will be easy for me to understand.

Apart, My straight question how much salary I should ask my HR to provide me so my EP can be renewed.
SATS tool showing I am eligiblie for EP/SP in 4.3K while from your above clarification should be around 4.4K. Need to convince my employer a lot for this $100 difference although high chance they will agree as they need me work with them.

Regarding S pass I worried if any 2 local staff same time resigned from my company then quota will be shaken-ed. Otherwise I have no concern.
Pls guide me. thanks!!

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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby dynamic.dante » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 5:45 pm

abhi200211 wrote::mad: Thanks for detailed explanation BBC Watcher.
Can you share some links Average salary rose to 4.95% and 4% respectively. Will be easy for me to understand.

Apart, My straight question how much salary I should ask my HR to provide me so my EP can be renewed.
SATS tool showing I am eligiblie for EP/SP in 4.3K while from your above clarification should be around 4.4K. Need to convince my employer a lot for this $100 difference although high chance they will agree as they need me work with them.

Regarding S pass I worried if any 2 local staff same time resigned from my company then quota will be shaken-ed. Otherwise I have no concern.
Pls guide me. thanks!!


As what BBCW said.
You CAN use the SAT tool as a benchmark, not neceasarily have to be 4.9whatnot %


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Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby Siv » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 6:15 pm

So....let me get this straight. If at point of renewing your EP after 2 years, your salary remains stagnant, you got a problem renewing EP ??

Damn.....this country is tough ! :P

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Re: RE: Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 6:50 pm

Siv wrote:So....let me get this straight. If at point of renewing your EP after 2 years, your salary remains stagnant, you got a problem renewing EP ??

Damn.....this country is tough ! :P

Actually if you change jobs, for certain sectors, you may end up with a pay cut ... ;)

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Re: RE: Re: My EP got rejected.Requesting for suggestions!!

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 15 Aug 2016 6:52 pm

abhi200211 wrote::mad: Thanks for detailed explanation BBC Watcher.
Can you share some links Average salary rose to 4.95% and 4% respectively. Will be easy for me to understand.

Apart, My straight question how much salary I should ask my HR to provide me so my EP can be renewed.
SATS tool showing I am eligiblie for EP/SP in 4.3K while from your above clarification should be around 4.4K. Need to convince my employer a lot for this $100 difference although high chance they will agree as they need me work with them.

Regarding S pass I worried if any 2 local staff same time resigned from my company then quota will be shaken-ed. Otherwise I have no concern.
Pls guide me. thanks!!


You need to tell your boss to award you more than 100$ increment to convince MOM.

And from what I know, if the 2 locals resign, MOM won't cancel your permit until It comes up for renewal. Somebody can clarify if that changed.


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