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PR rejected in 2 months

Post by BUNBUN » Mon, 04 Jan 2016 10:31 pm

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all the useful information shared on this forum. As ICA doesn't motivate its decisions, it really helps to put together our collective experience on the topic.

My PR application was processed in 2 months and I've received a letter saying it was rejected last month.

My profile :
- Caucasian, European, mid 40s, MBA education
- married to Malaysian Chinese (house wife, high school education only)
- fixed salary above 200K
- 2 sons (listed in the file) but applied only for wife and I
- employed by Singapore branch of European MNC for past 20years
- spent 4 years in Singapore in late 90s (on EP) then was posted to several other countries and now back
- back in Singapore since August 2015, on EP

I guess I applied too early as I just came back to Singapore. Or may be not not applying for my sons was the issue ?

Thoughts ?

Thanks

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Re: PR rejected in 2 months

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 04 Jan 2016 11:58 pm

Probably a combination of all three. Not here long enough this time and the break between postings here was enormous. Not including your sons was probably the straw the broke the camel's back.
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Re: PR rejected in 2 months

Post by BBCWatcher » Tue, 05 Jan 2016 10:53 am

Did you get a slightly sympathetic sentence in the rejection letter suggesting you reapply after a period of time, or was it curt?
sundaymorningstaple wrote:Not including your sons was probably the straw the broke the camel's back.
Are there any reports of successful PR applications that didn't include the son(s)?

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Re: PR rejected in 2 months

Post by BUNBUN » Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:22 am

Thank you SMS and BBCWatcher for your prompt replies.

The rejection letter just mentioned 'we have considered your application... we regret to inform you... Nevertheless you can continue to reside here on your valid passes... If you require further assistance you may call ICA at...".

Does this imply that my profile is not suitable and that there is no point applying again once I have been in Singapore for a longer period of time ?

I was thinking to apply again once I have a tax return in a couple of months. Not sure it will change the picture ?

How about purchasing a residential property as home in Singapore ? I'm actually planning to. Would it make the application significantly more attractive ?

I'm 43 now and as such I'm also concerned about waiting too long before I apply again.

Finally, regarding not applying for my sons, my wife called ICA and the officer told her that he had no access to the file but indicated that it may not be the blocking point as there were applications that were successful though male children were not included.

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Re: PR rejected in 2 months

Post by BBCWatcher » Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:02 pm

BUNBUN wrote:Does this imply that my profile is not suitable and that there is no point applying again once I have been in Singapore for a longer period of time ?
I wouldn't say "no point," but obviously a sympathetic sentence would have been nice to see. :(
I was thinking to apply again once I have a tax return in a couple of months. Not sure it will change the picture ?
Not much. At least you'll have the six months of payslips ICA asks for. ICA also asks for the last three years of Income Tax Notices of Assessment which you would have sometime in 2018. Can you apply with fewer than three years? Sure, you can. Is ICA asking "just because"? I doubt it.
How about purchasing a residential property as home in Singapore ? I'm actually planning to. Would it make the application significantly more attractive ?
Most people say no, and I agree with most people on this point.
Finally, regarding not applying for my sons, my wife called ICA and the officer told her that he had no access to the file but indicated that it may not be the blocking point as there were applications that were successful though male children were not included.
I'm highly confident that in the entire history of Singapore there has been some plural number of PR applications approved even though sons were not included in those applications. The available evidence also suggests that it's an uncommon outcome.

I think it's fair to say that including your whole family would improve your odds of approval. You know why you didn't include your sons, but (more importantly) so did ICA -- there's no real mystery here.

I don't recall reading many reports in this forum of such quick rejections. In ICA bureaucratic terms a two month turnaround is lighting fast. A reasonable assumption is that ICA saw at least one thing it really, really didn't like. If there's one piece of good news it's that they let you know quickly, and that gives you that much more time to ponder "What next?"

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Re: RE: Re: PR rejected in 2 months

Post by ecureilx » Tue, 05 Jan 2016 3:24 pm

BBCWatcher wrote: I'm highly confident that in the entire history of Singapore there has been some plural number of PR applications approved even though sons were not included in those applications.
Yep, like before 2010 election. Since then seeing such approval is rarer than kryptonite ever since, unless the applicant is a) Malaysian Chinese or b) another Chinese.

And before 2010 even one spouse can become SC while the other is still on PR. Try that now, you have a better chance at winning the 10 million TOTO.

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Re: PR rejected in 2 months

Post by sgstrait » Sun, 10 Jan 2016 1:32 pm

You have to remember that there are PR of varying degrees of wealth. Few can actually afford to buy a home but they are given PR anyway. It shows that buying a house is not determinative. Equally, neither is money. I know loads of people who bought a house here, but equally have at least one in their home country.

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