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Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Hi all, my father got PR through investment and I am a dependent PR from my father. However, his re-entry permit was expired and so did mine. We tried to appeal for renewal of REP but received no luck as my father stays out of Singapore for most of the time.
I want to ask, if my father leaves Singapore with his expired re-entry permit, but does not officially renounce his PR status at the ICA, he would probably lose his PR status. However, if I do not leave Singapore, will my PR status be affected?
Thank you in advance!
I want to ask, if my father leaves Singapore with his expired re-entry permit, but does not officially renounce his PR status at the ICA, he would probably lose his PR status. However, if I do not leave Singapore, will my PR status be affected?
Thank you in advance!
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Not until you walk out of Singapore the 1st time, then that's all she wrote.
Although they can rescind it if they want, I've never heard of it being done unless there were some sort of wrongdoing or something.
Although they can rescind it if they want, I've never heard of it being done unless there were some sort of wrongdoing or something.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Hi Sundaymorningstaple, really appreciate your prompt reply!sundaymorningstaple wrote:Not until you walk out of Singapore the 1st time, then that's all she wrote.
Although they can rescind it if they want, I've never heard of it being done unless there were some sort of wrongdoing or something.

Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Yes.... (esp if you have a blue IC). The only issue may come up is if some smart clown asks to see your REP and notices it has expired.Annie12321 wrote:Hi Sundaymorningstaple, really appreciate your prompt reply!sundaymorningstaple wrote:Not until you walk out of Singapore the 1st time, then that's all she wrote.
Although they can rescind it if they want, I've never heard of it being done unless there were some sort of wrongdoing or something.That means I can still studying in Singapore government school with my PR status if I do not leave Singapore, right?
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Even that doesn't matter. As long as you don't leave Singapore and you haven't broken any serious laws, your PR will be intact. In fact, and I've related this before on this board, I went without an REP for 15 months between 2004 & 2005. But, as noted, if you leave, it's a signal of voluntarily giving up your PR. It's a little bit different if you happen to be overseas when it expires. Normally, you can pay a $100 fine and it will be reinstated, provided you still qualify and you can provide a valid excuse as to why it wasn't renewed at an overseas mission.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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In A large shipyard, the HR policy says printout of REP, .. plus, get this - physically present the journey performed pagePNGMK wrote: Yes.... (esp if you have a blue IC). The only issue may come up is if some smart clown asks to see your REP and notices it has expired.

How many PRs keep that yellow paper?
Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
I kept mine but forgot where it was. Should be somewhere in the house ... i hope.
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
I've still got mine! 
It's a quarter of a century old, but I've still got it!

It's a quarter of a century old, but I've still got it!
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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Yes, in fact HR where I worked as for it when I joined. Their reasoning was to see if they could skip out paying my CPF (i.e. the ramped up CPF rates for first three years).ecureilx wrote:In A large shipyard, the HR policy says printout of REP, .. plus, get this - physically present the journey performed pagePNGMK wrote: Yes.... (esp if you have a blue IC). The only issue may come up is if some smart clown asks to see your REP and notices it has expired.
How many PRs keep that yellow paper?
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!
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On, the Shipyard I mentioned knew the candidate has been a PR for more than 5 years, but still, per 'POLICY', wanted to see it - no copies.PNGMK wrote:Yes, in fact HR where I worked as for it when I joined. Their reasoning was to see if they could skip out paying my CPF (i.e. the ramped up CPF rates for first three years).ecureilx wrote:In A large shipyard, the HR policy says printout of REP, .. plus, get this - physically present the journey performed pagePNGMK wrote: Yes.... (esp if you have a blue IC). The only issue may come up is if some smart clown asks to see your REP and notices it has expired.
How many PRs keep that yellow paper?
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Hello, everyone, i would like to appreciate all the replies!
Some updates. My parents actually left singapore with expired REPs this year Jan. My status is still PR as long as I stay inside Singapore. However, my mom wants to visit me in Singapore. Hence, she applied for visitor VISA but the officer asked her to return her IC to the ICA.
Hence, I returned her IC to the ICA on her behalf. Now, she needs a VISA to come into Singapore to deal with some admin stuff for CPF and bank accounts.
However, when she applied for visitor VISA, she was told that she is likely to be rejected by the ICA.
May I know what should I do now?
Some updates. My parents actually left singapore with expired REPs this year Jan. My status is still PR as long as I stay inside Singapore. However, my mom wants to visit me in Singapore. Hence, she applied for visitor VISA but the officer asked her to return her IC to the ICA.
Hence, I returned her IC to the ICA on her behalf. Now, she needs a VISA to come into Singapore to deal with some admin stuff for CPF and bank accounts.
However, when she applied for visitor VISA, she was told that she is likely to be rejected by the ICA.
May I know what should I do now?
Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
That's interesting. What passport are your parens holding now?
I not lawyer/teacher/CPA.
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!
You've been arrested? Law Society of Singapore can provide referrals.
You want an International School job? School website or http://www.ISS.edu
Your rugrat needs a School? Avoid for profit schools
You need Tax advice? Ask a CPA
You ran away without doing NS? Shame on you!
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
Hi PNGMK
My father is still holding PR, his IC is still valid. However, he cannot visit Singapore due to an expired REP. I think he can still retain his PR if he got very promising investments?? That's what I inferred from the ICA officer.
Since my mom has submit the IC. She is regarded as a foreigner now.
I am still a PR.
yess haha my case is really rare i guess
My father is still holding PR, his IC is still valid. However, he cannot visit Singapore due to an expired REP. I think he can still retain his PR if he got very promising investments?? That's what I inferred from the ICA officer.
Since my mom has submit the IC. She is regarded as a foreigner now.
I am still a PR.
yess haha my case is really rare i guess
Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
It is not an IC what makes your father PR and in Singapore, the expired REP + living abroad = no PR any longer. If he wanted to retain the PR status he should have never left Singapore after his REP expired (or let it expired after he left).
He may be lucky to get back his PR but it is not necessary as easy as investing a bit of money in a little something but more like a few millions of dollars. A complicated status of your family may not help with this neither.
He may be lucky to get back his PR but it is not necessary as easy as investing a bit of money in a little something but more like a few millions of dollars. A complicated status of your family may not help with this neither.
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Re: Advise needed for expired PR re-entry permit
oh didn't know that, thanks for the info. Any advices on how can my mom visit Singapore ? Thanks:))x9200 wrote:It is not an IC what makes your father PR and in Singapore, the expired REP + living abroad = no PR any longer. If he wanted to retain the PR status he should have never left Singapore after his REP expired (or let it expired after he left).
He may be lucky to get back his PR but it is not necessary as easy as investing a bit of money in a little something but more like a few millions of dollars. A complicated status of your family may not help with this neither.
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