This is very interesting!thismyvoice wrote:A word of advice. Be silent when queueing at Batam immigration. The officers there are doing serious work and do not like to be disturbed. Flout the rule and you can be refused entry.
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It really depends where you are coming in... and... I've never seen such behavior... and I've been to Batam hundreds of times. Mostly to Nongsapura... these guys were all cool... less often to Harborfront... tends to be crowded at times... what pisses them off are people who are not prepared... never heard an issue about silence. And, a few times through Sekupang as well... nice and friendly folks.thismyvoice wrote:A word of advice. Be silent when queueing at Batam immigration. The officers there are doing serious work and do not like to be disturbed. Flout the rule and you can be refused entry.
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sundaymorningstaple wrote:And very true! I've seen it happen.
First time I visited I was on a day-trip with a tour group. I was the only non Chinese person on the coach. Perhaps the only non-pensioner too. The day was spent:Gerriventure wrote:Hey there! Thanks for the great tips! Guess I'll plan for a weekend trip to Batam this coming weekend. Another quick question - Would it be better to just join a tour group or go solo? Any tips? (:
JR8 wrote:First time I visited I was on a day-trip with a tour group. I was the only non Chinese person on the coach. Perhaps the only non-pensioner too. The day was spent:Gerriventure wrote:Hey there! Thanks for the great tips! Guess I'll plan for a weekend trip to Batam this coming weekend. Another quick question - Would it be better to just join a tour group or go solo? Any tips? (:
a) *constantly* on the move. 'Admiring' the sites of Batam from inside the coach as we bombed all around. 'Hurry hurry we have to shop/spend/consume here, then must hurry to our next stop'.
b) shopping for 'local handicrafts'
c) shopping for local food products (pref ones that are illegal or taboo in other countries)
d) shopping for fake Ralph Lauren tat.
e) eating 'auspicious' Chinese seafood.
f) shopping. And eating some more, and hurrying.
The whole conducted by the tour guide in Chinese.
It had a certain novelty factor. I got to see how the Chinese enjoy spending a day of 'leisure'. In retrospect though (25+ years later) I never had a moment to stop, observe, and/or consider. It didn't matter really what country I was in, as the only country-specific aspect that came into play was how cheap the otherwise (vs SG) expensive stuff we were all pushed to buy was.
So, the trip, in retrospect, was more a lesson in spending a very long day of total non-stop consumption with a group of 30-40 Chinese people on holiday, not one of whom spoke English. Is that what you have in mind?
If you have any desire to set your own pace, to have a moment to stop and think, to not be consumed by making and/or saving money with every breath drawn, then I would DIY it, as I have done on all subsequent trips over there.
Yeah, interspersed with eating... pretty much!Gerriventure wrote:Goodness! So basically its just shopping shopping and more shopping?
Authentic fake Ralph Lauren? That's probably made in ChinaGerriventure wrote:But what is there 'authentic' to purchase in Batam?
My impression was (and is) that Asians aren't really interested in their own heritage. Unless there is some immediate personal tangible gain to be got from it; i.e. monetary, rather than say knowledge or insight.Gerriventure wrote:Haven't they got a tour solely for heritage / sightseeing rather than just shopping 70% of the time? Is there no option for an English speaking guide as well?
It's hard to figure out what "heritage" is found on Batam. There are still lots of sleepy kampongs along the coastline where the primary source of income is fishing, augmented with jobs at the hotels and golf courses. If you want to see these, you best rent a motorbike and ride through them. About the most exciting thing to happen in Batam in decades was when the Singapore airlines A380 lost an engine over Batam and parts of it were found all over the island.Gerriventure wrote:Goodness! So basically its just shopping shopping and more shopping? But what is there 'authentic' to purchase in Batam?
Haven't they got a tour solely for heritage / sightseeing rather than just shopping 70% of the time?
Is there no option for an English speaking guide as well?
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