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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby JR8 » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 5:35 pm

sgstrait wrote:I agree that the likes of Cartier, Tiffany, Bulgari may have high mark ups. However, you pay for the name as you do with all consumer things. Ultimately its about the woman, and she will normally want the prestige of saying "oh its from so-and-so you know".


Hmmm well, it depends on the level of 'paying for a name'. For example: I'd pay (and have, and do) extra for a Bosch or Miele home appliance as IME they cost more upfront, but last way waaay longer than cheaper products. But I have no interest in paying for a label or bragging rights, it's simply down to value for money.

Real diamonds are all from one source (the ground :)), so who sells one to you doesn't matter one iota. If someone wants to pay double for the same thing from a fancy-pants shop, then good luck to them. My wife would rather have twice the same stone, size-wise, as she doesn't care for trivialities like where it came from; it is all down to the quality.
If you want to vie for prestige how does this work: 'Your ring is half the size of mine [true], mine is the same or better quality than yours [true], and mine [lying] is from Cartier/Larry too'? What are you meant to do, carry around the original receipt to show people? :lol: :wink:

sgstrait wrote:Also, if you ever had to auction it off, I know which ring the auctioneer would get a lot of interest in. Imagine "Lot 1 is a 1 ct diamond ring from Cartier" versus "Lot 2 is a 1.5 ct diamond ring from Real Love White Gem Trading Co, which is not trading anymore but the owner seemed a nice chap". I know which would garner more interest...


Not for me. It'd all be down to the gem-lab certificate. Now, Cartier don't tend to mess about with lower grade stones, so one can to an extent assume it will be a nice stone, but if the quality is the same from 'Real Love WGTCo' it doesn't matter...
And resale time, if it comes, is when all the purchase overhead/margin gets realised. Unless the stone is in some historic/collectible mount, again, it matters not a jot what retail outlet it was bought from. Ultimately it would have come from a diamond bourse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Fed ... nd_Bourses where every dealer/retailer ultimately sources his stones. When two similar stones leave the bourse's front door, one for Cartier, the other for 'RLWTGCo' their value is the same, and IMO that doesn't change according to whom retails it.

@Eagle. Agreed. I'm lucky that my wife is not avaricious jewellery-wise. She's got a nice ring, and pair of studs, and... well now like you describe there are always going to be things of greater interest, practicality, or draw.
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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby L.Jaff » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 6:02 pm

Ok. My main priority is for the diamond to be big and as shiny as it can get. And of course, I would want the best bang for my buck. This leaves those high end brands out. Also, paying more for a high end brand diamond doesn't necessarily mean the quality is better either.. I noticed not all diamonds from Tiffany are Triple Excellent grades.. also, they're not GIA certified.

Has anyone heard or tried using this when buying a diamond?


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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby JR8 » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 9:22 pm

L.Jaff wrote:[1]Ok. My main priority is for the diamond to be big and as shiny as it can get. [2]And of course, I would want the best bang for my buck. This leaves those high end brands out. [3]Also, paying more for a high end brand diamond doesn't necessarily mean the quality is better either...


Hehehe... It's good that you're thinking about it/such things, because any knowledge you gain before-hand will more than pay off when the time for purchase comes. You don't need to go crazy with the learning, but there is a happy-medium, a point at which you can read a certificate and understand what it means, and the salesman sees that you can so takes you seriously too...

[1] 'Big and shiny' :) You might consider those like two opposing aspects within a fixed budget. It's like saying I have a budget of $x, and I want a big condo in D10. For most people something has to give somewhat and with a bit of reading up you can understand where compromises can be made without materially impacting the outcome.
For example as per the linked vid you'll see that a well cut smaller stone can look larger than a poorly cut same size or larger stone. It's because a major element of a stone's perceived size is simply due to it's light performance; i.e. how much light going in from the front/top ['table'], is internally reflected and sent straight back out of the table. So when you see a stone and it's a real 'dazzler' that's primarily due to it being very well cut [etc]. But it's worth noting here, if your wife is not going to dip-clean her ring weekly or so, the back of the stone will tend to get coated in grot and then... your Super-Ideal cut is going to perform like a hunk of glass!

[2] Have you considered what shape she would like? Round/Brilliant cut has always been popular, but become almost a default choice these days. Perhaps as a result some ladies seek something different, like emerald-cut [rectangle] or princess-cut [square of almost square]. It's useful to know what you're aiming towards as each cut has it's own idiosyncrasies. Example: one of the 4C's is 'Clarity'. That's basically the amount of inclusions, er... sh*t in the stone. It's usually sand or silica grains, usually dark brown/black. In an Ideal-Cut because the table is very 'busy' with numerous facets you can cope with more and you won't notice them as much. Flip-side is an Emerald-cut, the table is wide open, and any inclusions will be more apparent.

So the reason to consider the shape now is because if seeking Ideal-cut then inclusions matter less, but light performance (cut) and colour more. Emerald-cut, i) colour ii) inclusions iii) cut, IMHO. So if you have an idea, then you can focus on the nuances of that specific cut rather than learning about every kind of cut out there...

[3] Nope it doesn't. In London all commercially landed fish are wholesaled via Billingsgate Fish-Market. You could have a crate of cod from one market trader go to Harrods, and the crate right next to it from the same vendor go to a high-street fish-monger. But the now 'Harrod's cod' will miraculously be priced 3-4* as high as the high-street price, despite being exactly the same. It's precisely the same with diamonds... that's when you realise that desiring only Harrod's cod is all a little silly, and a very expensive habit.


L.Jaff wrote:I noticed not all diamonds from Tiffany are Triple Excellent grades.. also, they're not GIA certified. Has anyone heard or tried using this when buying a diamond?


Interesting! A cert from one of the reputable graders used to run to, ... say up to about US$150. So there is a price-point at which it becomes economic providing and requiring one. Don't know, maybe US$2k/+ ? Over say US$5k you really want to see one. If a stone is uncertified you can certainly ask for it to be certified (your expense), though a high-street retailer might not know how to do this.
Dealers/retailers will pick a grader according to the stone they want graded. There are several agencies and one might put more weight on just say clarity than others might. So GIA are used a lot and broadly. EGL used to be popular for grading Emerald-cut diamonds, and so on. The dealer will source a cert from where he thinks he'll get the best grading - 'clever' eh? :)

So, start by considering budget. Then desired shape/cut. Then later the style of shank or 'mount', the metal. The type of metal. The design of the mount... say a 4-prong mount for a solitaire is the most discreet and least obtrusive, but if she's an outdoorsy/sporty type and she'll wear it every day then a 6-prong mount might be wiser as it'll withstand more wear and tear.


re: Ideal-scope. Yes, in fact I have one somewhere. Not something you're likely to need too often, esp. because the relevant data should be on the certificate.
I remember one time buying a piece of jewellery in SG and pulling out my own loupe (lens), and the jeweller was like WTH!? :o That response was amusing, but for me it was more to signal that I didn't intend to get ripped-off, and in fact I was only looking for any really obvious flaws (inclusions/cut). Gawd knows what they'd do if you whipped out an Ideal-scope :lol:

You'll see some of the websites I've mentioned before. Have a dig around, most good reputable sites will go to the trouble of providing you with resources to help you understand what you're buying.

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So Tiffany's have their own grading system? LOL - well I never, I didn't know that! Ask yourself why. Perhaps they're suggesting they're so trust-worthy they don't need to bother with such things. Be cautious, IMO no one is so reputable, so as not to provide certs.
Some links I dug up just earlier on this, that I'll read later, meanwhile...
Ideal-scope: http://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamond ... amples.htm
Tiffany's grading: http://www.tiffany.com/Service/FaqDetai ... ATEGORY=65
https://m.tiffany.com/mobile/expertise/ ... icate.aspx
http://www.tiffany.com/Expertise/Diamond/The4Cs.aspx
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockyta ... 30727.html
http://www.jewelry-secrets.com/Blog/tif ... tificates/
http://www.mjgabel.com/blog/entry/tiffa ... r-diamonds
Note this from the above! ->
'Recently I have been approached with Tiffany Diamond engagement rings. Their owners seem to be having difficulty getting offers that are remotely close to their asking price. The commonality between all of these clients is that they kept stating that their diamond was a “Tiffany Diamond”, and therefore is worth more than a diamond of equal quality without the Tiffany name tag.

Since there seems to be a misconception about the diamonds that are mounted in these rings, I would just like to take to clarify the initial impressions about a Tiffany Diamond.

Also to be clear, I contacted Tiffany & Co. and spoke directly with a “Diamond Specialist” in a management position so that I could be informed on their policies/standards and what exactly a “Tiffany Diamond” is.

Just to re-cap quickly: diamonds take millions of years to form deep within the earth. They are then mined in rough form, and transferred to a manufacturer. The manufacturer cuts the diamonds to be used in fine jewelry, and then typically sells them loose to wholesalers or directly to large jewelers. Many jewelers set standards for which they like to uphold when it comes to the quality of stones they purchase from a manufacture. These diamonds however are no different than others of equal quality going to a different jeweler.'
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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby Strong Eagle » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:27 pm

L.Jaff wrote:Ok. My main priority is for the diamond to be big and as shiny as it can get. And of course, I would want the best bang for my buck.


Real big... real shiny... and a steal at $48 million.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... record-48m

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Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby RedRidingHood » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:38 pm

I would skip Tiffany totally.
Blue Nile has some good prices that is you are willing to take the risk of buying it without having seen it. I believe they have a return or exchange policy.

I could not remember the last time I wore my ring. It's kept in the safe since Baby 1 was born. Just saying ....


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Postby JR8 » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:43 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:Real big... real shiny... and a steal at $48 million.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... record-48m


I can see the allure, a good diamond is a thing of perfection and great rarity. No different from collecting classic Ferrari's or old-masters etc. Oh to have the money for any of such things :)

16 carats, so all of c.3 grams. Amazing really...
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Postby JR8 » Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:58 pm

RedRidingHood wrote:I would skip Tiffany totally.
Blue Nile has some good prices that is you are willing to take the risk of buying it without having seen it. I believe they have a return or exchange policy.
I could not remember the last time I wore my ring. It's kept in the safe since Baby 1 was born. Just saying ....


I've looked at Blue Nile, a big site, though not recently. IIRC it's more of an open market-place, so I'd want to be very clear who anyone (the specific dealer) I'm buying from is. But yes, definitely worth using as a reference point, and perhaps a source.
Can someone give me the specs on a stone currently on sale at say 'Larry's'? If so I'll go and find the equivalent over on Blue Nile or similar... hehhe... anyway, it'd perhaps be pretty revealing!
Yes, so much in this trade depends upon trust that I imagine Blue Nile (as others, with a reputation to protect) come with rock-solid customer protection.
Yr last point - quite. I realised with the first nice stone I bought for a woman, that the buying process and the end result was perhaps of more interest to me, than it was to her. You can, if you wish, get hung-up on fluorescence, internal angles and proportions etc etc*20. Gemology reeeally interests me, but to her it was just a 'very nice ring'. Guys need to keep a focus on that; i.e. what is actually important to her, and no guys, 'size doesn't always take 1st place' ;)
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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby RedRidingHood » Fri, 04 Dec 2015 9:36 am

JR8 wrote:
I've looked at Blue Nile, a big site, though not recently. IIRC it's more of an open market-place, so I'd want to be very clear who anyone (the specific dealer) I'm buying from is. But yes, definitely worth using as a reference point, and perhaps a source.
Can someone give me the specs on a stone currently on sale at say 'Larry's'? If so I'll go and find the equivalent over on Blue Nile or similar... hehhe... anyway, it'd perhaps be pretty revealing!
Yes, so much in this trade depends upon trust that I imagine Blue Nile (as others, with a reputation to protect) come with rock-solid customer protection.
Yr last point - quite. I realised with the first nice stone I bought for a woman, that the buying process and the end result was perhaps of more interest to me, than it was to her. You can, if you wish, get hung-up on fluorescence, internal angles and proportions etc etc*20. Gemology reeeally interests me, but to her it was just a 'very nice ring'. Guys need to keep a focus on that; i.e. what is actually important to her, and no guys, 'size doesn't always take 1st place' ;)


Yes true. My bf then wanted me to get a bigger stone but with poorer colour and clarity. In the end, I chose one which is smaller, but excellence in colour/clarity. My thoughts then were to pass this down to my daughter and future generations in the future like an heirloom (the naïve me thought I would have 1 son and 1 daughter) and I wanted it to be of good quality. As fate would have it, I have two daughters and no sons. :)

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Postby Primrose Hill » Fri, 04 Dec 2015 1:24 pm

We did neither - no big shiny rock vs stone or the 300 guest reception either. Instead it was Camden townhall for us and settled for buying a old pink carpeted & curtained apartment instead and haven't looked back since.
However, hubby always said that he bought sofa instead.

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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby L.Jaff » Mon, 07 Dec 2015 7:27 pm

JR8 wrote:
L.Jaff wrote:[1]Ok. My main priority is for the diamond to be big and as shiny as it can get. [2]And of course, I would want the best bang for my buck. This leaves those high end brands out. [3]Also, paying more for a high end brand diamond doesn't necessarily mean the quality is better either...


Hehehe... It's good that you're thinking about it/such things, because any knowledge you gain before-hand will more than pay off when the time for purchase comes. You don't need to go crazy with the learning, but there is a happy-medium, a point at which you can read a certificate and understand what it means, and the salesman sees that you can so takes you seriously too...

[1] 'Big and shiny' :) You might consider those like two opposing aspects within a fixed budget. It's like saying I have a budget of $x, and I want a big condo in D10. For most people something has to give somewhat and with a bit of reading up you can understand where compromises can be made without materially impacting the outcome.
For example as per the linked vid you'll see that a well cut smaller stone can look larger than a poorly cut same size or larger stone. It's because a major element of a stone's perceived size is simply due to it's light performance; i.e. how much light going in from the front/top ['table'], is internally reflected and sent straight back out of the table. So when you see a stone and it's a real 'dazzler' that's primarily due to it being very well cut [etc]. But it's worth noting here, if your wife is not going to dip-clean her ring weekly or so, the back of the stone will tend to get coated in grot and then... your Super-Ideal cut is going to perform like a hunk of glass!

[2] Have you considered what shape she would like? Round/Brilliant cut has always been popular, but become almost a default choice these days. Perhaps as a result some ladies seek something different, like emerald-cut [rectangle] or princess-cut [square of almost square]. It's useful to know what you're aiming towards as each cut has it's own idiosyncrasies. Example: one of the 4C's is 'Clarity'. That's basically the amount of inclusions, er... sh*t in the stone. It's usually sand or silica grains, usually dark brown/black. In an Ideal-Cut because the table is very 'busy' with numerous facets you can cope with more and you won't notice them as much. Flip-side is an Emerald-cut, the table is wide open, and any inclusions will be more apparent.

So the reason to consider the shape now is because if seeking Ideal-cut then inclusions matter less, but light performance (cut) and colour more. Emerald-cut, i) colour ii) inclusions iii) cut, IMHO. So if you have an idea, then you can focus on the nuances of that specific cut rather than learning about every kind of cut out there...

[3] Nope it doesn't. In London all commercially landed fish are wholesaled via Billingsgate Fish-Market. You could have a crate of cod from one market trader go to Harrods, and the crate right next to it from the same vendor go to a high-street fish-monger. But the now 'Harrod's cod' will miraculously be priced 3-4* as high as the high-street price, despite being exactly the same. It's precisely the same with diamonds... that's when you realise that desiring only Harrod's cod is all a little silly, and a very expensive habit.


L.Jaff wrote:I noticed not all diamonds from Tiffany are Triple Excellent grades.. also, they're not GIA certified. Has anyone heard or tried using this when buying a diamond?


Interesting! A cert from one of the reputable graders used to run to, ... say up to about US$150. So there is a price-point at which it becomes economic providing and requiring one. Don't know, maybe US$2k/+ ? Over say US$5k you really want to see one. If a stone is uncertified you can certainly ask for it to be certified (your expense), though a high-street retailer might not know how to do this.
Dealers/retailers will pick a grader according to the stone they want graded. There are several agencies and one might put more weight on just say clarity than others might. So GIA are used a lot and broadly. EGL used to be popular for grading Emerald-cut diamonds, and so on. The dealer will source a cert from where he thinks he'll get the best grading - 'clever' eh? :)

So, start by considering budget. Then desired shape/cut. Then later the style of shank or 'mount', the metal. The type of metal. The design of the mount... say a 4-prong mount for a solitaire is the most discreet and least obtrusive, but if she's an outdoorsy/sporty type and she'll wear it every day then a 6-prong mount might be wiser as it'll withstand more wear and tear.


re: Ideal-scope. Yes, in fact I have one somewhere. Not something you're likely to need too often, esp. because the relevant data should be on the certificate.
I remember one time buying a piece of jewellery in SG and pulling out my own loupe (lens), and the jeweller was like WTH!? :o That response was amusing, but for me it was more to signal that I didn't intend to get ripped-off, and in fact I was only looking for any really obvious flaws (inclusions/cut). Gawd knows what they'd do if you whipped out an Ideal-scope :lol:

You'll see some of the websites I've mentioned before. Have a dig around, most good reputable sites will go to the trouble of providing you with resources to help you understand what you're buying.

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So Tiffany's have their own grading system? LOL - well I never, I didn't know that! Ask yourself why. Perhaps they're suggesting they're so trust-worthy they don't need to bother with such things. Be cautious, IMO no one is so reputable, so as not to provide certs.
Some links I dug up just earlier on this, that I'll read later, meanwhile...
Ideal-scope: http://www.whiteflash.com/about-diamond ... amples.htm
Tiffany's grading: http://www.tiffany.com/Service/FaqDetai ... ATEGORY=65
https://m.tiffany.com/mobile/expertise/ ... icate.aspx
http://www.tiffany.com/Expertise/Diamond/The4Cs.aspx
http://www.pricescope.com/forum/rockyta ... 30727.html
http://www.jewelry-secrets.com/Blog/tif ... tificates/
http://www.mjgabel.com/blog/entry/tiffa ... r-diamonds
Note this from the above! ->
'Recently I have been approached with Tiffany Diamond engagement rings. Their owners seem to be having difficulty getting offers that are remotely close to their asking price. The commonality between all of these clients is that they kept stating that their diamond was a “Tiffany Diamond”, and therefore is worth more than a diamond of equal quality without the Tiffany name tag.

Since there seems to be a misconception about the diamonds that are mounted in these rings, I would just like to take to clarify the initial impressions about a Tiffany Diamond.

Also to be clear, I contacted Tiffany & Co. and spoke directly with a “Diamond Specialist” in a management position so that I could be informed on their policies/standards and what exactly a “Tiffany Diamond” is.

Just to re-cap quickly: diamonds take millions of years to form deep within the earth. They are then mined in rough form, and transferred to a manufacturer. The manufacturer cuts the diamonds to be used in fine jewelry, and then typically sells them loose to wholesalers or directly to large jewelers. Many jewelers set standards for which they like to uphold when it comes to the quality of stones they purchase from a manufacture. These diamonds however are no different than others of equal quality going to a different jeweler.'
[continues]


This is very insightful!!

1) Yes, the more I'm reading into it, the more I realised how little I know. There's quite a scientific approach to it. For the proportions, there's the HCA tool (http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca) to check for it. Found it thanks to your link! And to check the light performance, there is the Ideal and ASET scope. Is there anything else I'm missing out on?

2) That's a very good questions! Being more traditional, I prefer the round shape diamond. However, she recently hinted to me that she found the cushion shape appealing too. This changes the ball game for me. For cushion shapes, do you think it shows more of the inclusions?

3) Ah, I see. Never thought of it that way... This gives me a much clearer picture of diamond trade :-k

Do you have an Ideal scope? So far, all the jewellers I went to don't have it. In fact, they don't even know what it is. The only jeweller I read that carry it is Jannpaul and they have useful videos of it. Booked an appointment with them this weekend.

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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby L.Jaff » Mon, 07 Dec 2015 7:28 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
L.Jaff wrote:Ok. My main priority is for the diamond to be big and as shiny as it can get. And of course, I would want the best bang for my buck.


Real big... real shiny... and a steal at $48 million.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/n ... record-48m


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Postby JR8 » Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:46 pm

L.Jaff wrote: This is very insightful!! 1) Yes, the more I'm reading into it, the more I realised how little I know. There's quite a scientific approach to it. For the proportions, there's the HCA tool (http://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca) to check for it. Found it thanks to your link! And to check the light performance, there is the Ideal and ASET scope. Is there anything else I'm missing out on?


Haha, that is exactly how I felt. I scratched the surface then realised I knew little or nothing :o The subject is almost limitless, but getting a grip on the basics is both interesting and useful IME/O.
I think that's most of the major tools you've outlined there, that and the basic loupe. In some ways like with say http://www.lumeradiamonds.com/diamond-e ... ut-diamond you can find web-based algorithms that you populate with data from the diamond cert. And that should tell you all you need to know. A loupe is handy, apart from that I wouldn't concern yourself too much with the other tools, unless the jeweller happens to give you one.


L.Jaff wrote:2) That's a very good questions! Being more traditional, I prefer the round shape diamond. However, she recently hinted to me that she found the cushion shape appealing too. This changes the ball game for me. For cushion shapes, do you think it shows more of the inclusions?


And there you go! And if I were you I'd pay close-heed to that. Because no matter how much you like round/brilliants if it is not her preferred thing.... ... keep in mind that from a young age she has probably had an idea and a dream of what 'THE ring' is going to look like come the day. Go against that at your peril is my advice :-D
In a way (amongst friends) I've seen more recently go for slightly alt cuts, cushion/princess. I think they don't want to go for the obvious/voguish round/brilliant. But my wife was resolute about wanting round/brilliant, so that's what she got.
You'll see the various considerations re: cushion-cut in the above link.
Interestingly cushion-cut is far more traditional (historically) than round cut. I find round cut almost a cliche... BUT it should be directed by the wishes/hopes/dreams [:)] of the recipient. This is where any subtle cues you get are really helpful to guide you.

L.Jaff wrote:3) Ah, I see. Never thought of it that way... This gives me a much clearer picture of diamond trade :-k
Do you have an Ideal scope? So far, all the jewellers I went to don't have it. In fact, they don't even know what it is. The only jeweller I read that carry it is Jannpaul and they have useful videos of it. Booked an appointment with them this weekend.


It's an interesting business, much of it behind closed doors. And of course it's still to an extent a cartel. I think it's rather like buying a used car, it doesn't take much homework to inform yourself and protect yourself against buying a lemon.
I don't remember if I have an ideal-scope or not. I've got a couple of lenses/scopes but as suggested it's going to raise eyebrows if you bring them out at a jewellers :) Plus I'm not really expecting to be in the market and needing such things any time again soon. My starting point would be a trusted retailer, and the grading cert they provide. That should tell you all you need to know.
Most regular jewellers in SG are simply retailers, and most of the salesmen know little or nothing about the product. It takes very little effort to read-up/get informed, to have a greater knowledge than most of them. Then, you will be amazed in a :shock: type way at the absolute uninformed bull they spout.
JannPaul rings a bell - I hope it's not at Paragon or similar, simply for the sake of your bank-balance! :) Anyway, let us know how it goes...
p.s. see also - http://www.bluenile.com/education/diamo ... ushion-cut
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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby Primrose Hill » Wed, 09 Dec 2015 4:45 pm

Even at Hatton Gardens, you need the recommended jeweller that won't charge you the "tiffany" price. There are similar jewellers here in SG that do one-off stuff at a fraction of the GBP58,000 tiffany ring. I had it made last year here ala tiffany stylo. For a fraction of the price and then bill the husband.

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Postby JR8 » Wed, 09 Dec 2015 4:57 pm

Hehehe...
Same way you can go and look at some jaw-droppers in Cartier etc, then taking the specifications go and DIY it yourself for 1/2-price of less. Sure, 'it's not Cartier'... but if you want an egregious example of paying for a name, high-end jewellery might be the pinnacle of it.
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Re: Where to get a diamond ring in Singapore

Postby L.Jaff » Wed, 16 Dec 2015 11:58 pm

I had a fruitful visit to Jannpaul last weekend. They're a very good place to start if you're trying to learn more about diamonds. They can get very technical and seem to really know their stuff. Its strongly advisable to know your basic 4Cs prior to visiting them as they can get very detailed in their diamond education. Perhaps they assumed that I was knowledgable in that aspect when I asked if they had the Ideal and Aset scope. The salesperson was very excited to show them to me. Apparently, they use it on all their diamonds.

I found it amusing that they "revealed" to me how jewellery shops uses strong lights to make the diamond look better and the true test was to look at them under the scopes. They showed me a good and bad diamond under their store lighting, which I could hardly tell the difference. Later, they brought the same 2 diamonds out of their store and bam... The super ideal cut stood out.
Another interesting point their shared with me was to avoid certain flat carat weights such as 0.70ct, 1.00ct, etc. as diamonds prices jumps at these round numbers..

Surprisingly, their prices are somewhat comparable to online prices! They give pretty good after-services like free re-sizing, gold repolishing, engravings, etc. It actually comes down to a pretty good deal if I factored all these in.

I almost went for them but had to fight the temptation :P I'll be heading to Hong Kong next week and will see if I can get anything better there.

Anyway, for those who have no idea what the Ideal scope or ASET scope is,

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