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Renouncing Citizenship - by descent

Postby Salmonella » Tue, 08 Sep 2015 2:39 pm

About 10 years ago I moved overseas, got married, (wife is foreign national)and 5 years ago had a son who i registered as a Singapore Citizen by descent.

My son is now 5 and holds a passport for his country of birth and I have no intention in him keeping his Singapore Citizenship when he is 21, however he is liable for NS, although he will never set foot in Singapore.

Since 10 years ago, i have made Zero trips to Singapore & I acquired Citizenship of the country of birth of my son 3 years ago. Last year i renewed my Singapore passport, as I had not renounced it, so it was abit confusing about whether or not to renew it at the embassy.

So:

1) I will not be applying for an IC or Passport for my 5 year old son now or in the future
2) Both him and me (I now hold 2 passports) although the Singapore one is useless to me. (I have no CPF or family/friends in Singapore)

Should i avoid Singapore indefinitely and advise my son to do the same ? Or is there a renounciation method with no drama given the delay my delay in renouncing citizenship, acquiring foreign citizenship and renewing my passport.

Lastly Singapore is a dot, that does not scare me and is very insignificant :)

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Re: Renouncing Citizenship - by descent

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 08 Sep 2015 5:18 pm

Salmonella wrote:About 10 years ago I moved overseas, got married, (wife is foreign national)and 5 years ago had a son who i registered as a Singapore Citizen by descent.

My son is now 5 and holds a passport for his country of birth and I have no intention in him keeping his Singapore Citizenship when he is 21, however he is liable for NS, although he will never set foot in Singapore.

Since 10 years ago, i have made Zero trips to Singapore & I acquired Citizenship of the country of birth of my son 3 years ago. Last year i renewed my Singapore passport, as I had not renounced it, so it was abit confusing about whether or not to renew it at the embassy.

So:

1) I will not be applying for an IC or Passport for my 5 year old son now or in the future
2) Both him and me (I now hold 2 passports) although the Singapore one is useless to me. (I have no CPF or family/friends in Singapore)

Should i avoid Singapore indefinitely and advise my son to do the same ? Or is there a renounciation method with no drama given the delay my delay in renouncing citizenship, acquiring foreign citizenship and renewing my passport.

Lastly Singapore is a dot, that does not scare me and is very insignificant :)


The amount of Drama is only what you make it out to be. If you will take the time necessary to read the following thread, all your questions should be answered......

viewtopic.php?t=61423

There are steps that must be followed to the letter, but if you want to keep all things above board (which in this ever shrinking globe in more necessary now than ever - you don't know what your son's status/position will be in 30 years time), follow the steps indicated and you can do it with as little inconvenience as possible

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Re: Renouncing Citizenship - by descent

Postby Mad Scientist » Sat, 06 Aug 2016 12:21 pm

Please my reply and this is the same one from another post you made. You must be desperate. Here it is and good luck


Salmonella wrote:
Hi,

I have a question specifically for the user the Mad Scientist about my son's citizenship by descent situation.


My son is 8 years old, was born overseas and always lived overseas (will do so permanently). I applied for singapore citizenship by descent shortly after he was born. His mother is a foreign national.

Answer
He is a Singaporean by descent and it supersedes his foreign nationality until the age of 21 where he has to renounce either one citizenship

My understanding is that if he remains overseas with me and my family until he is 22, never holds a NRIC or SG passport, or visits Singapore at all, then at the age of 22 the ICA will inform him that he is no longer a citizen or needs to renounce ?

Answer
Incorrect, since he has already acquired SG citizenship by descent he has to follow the protocol of getting exit permit at the turn of 13 so that he is allowed to stay out of SG for a period of less than 2 yrs without having to imposing any bonds on you. then on, contact CMPB/Mindef to inform them your intention to renounce his SG citizenship at 21.
Mindef/ CMPB will sent a set of documents for your to filled up and returned to them
It will take about 2 months for the process once it is received by Mindef
Once accepted and if accepted to renounce at 21, CMPB will provide you another exit permit till 16 then once more till 21 once you registered him for NS as a formality at 16 .
Once at 21 then you can go to any Singapore Mission to renounce within 3 months he turn 21.


Once renounced, i assume he will not be considered a NS defaulter ?

Answer
Nope, once you follow this steps you will be good.

There is a lot of misinformation in these threads and from information I am seeking.

Does he need to inform Mindef and apply exit permits and all that including smth about a bond ? Any clear instruction to me is appreciated Mad Scientist which i will follow exactly.
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