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Re: Visitor Visa Request Rejected - Appeal Stauts & Next Steps - Suggestions

Postby JR8 » Mon, 19 Oct 2015 9:30 pm

Perhaps BBCWatcher never got to watch the BBC series 'The Kumars at number 42'? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kumars_at_No._42

The BBC are achingly right-on/multi-culti/PC. Example: I cannot imagine any other organisation that could get away with active positive discrimination in favour of women, alt sexualities and minority races. Despite which it was the broadcaster that aired this series for five years on it's flagship channels, that satirises and egregiously stereotypes Indians. That is simply because there is a huge dividing gulf between laughing AT someone else, vs laughing WITH them. And that's not all, the BBC sold broadcasting rights to amongst others.... guess who... India!

Wiki:
'In India it was also aired on Comedy Central...
ARY Digital has produced a Pakistani version of the show called Ghaffar at Dhoraji featuring a Gujarati family living in Karachi. Sony Television has produced an Indian version of the show called Batliwalla House No. 43 featuring a Parsee family living in Mumbai.'


Wow... where to begin this witch-hunt? :???: :lol:

p.s. My mother is foreign, my wife is Asian. My brother-in-law is of Sub-Con extraction, and hence my 3 nieces/nephews are Sub-Con/Cauc mixed race: How many Caucasians are there in your family?
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Postby x9200 » Mon, 19 Oct 2015 9:44 pm

Are Indians that bonded to their in-laws (and vice-versa) that they have to live with them at least for a period once every few months?

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:14 pm

Squirrel, I reckon Venka figured that BBC had his head way up his arse and totally clueless regarding Indian culture, so just stopped replying as he could see that BBC was clueless in regards to Indian traits so isn't much more than a troll, just tryin' to pick a fight. Sadly, he's not even worth the time.

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Re: Visitor Visa Request Rejected - Appeal Stauts & Next Steps - Suggestions

Postby venka81 » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 8:02 am

Hi All,

Thanks for the suggestions, Am an EP holder and my in-laws are currently in India. I applied for their tourist visa through online portal, however it got rejected twice with no reasons given. Hence thought to check with experts here if I reapply again, would there be any chance for getting it approved?

Will it work, if i reapply from india? or reapplying through online portal in SG itself will work?

Need your valuable suggestions.

Thanks,

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Postby x9200 » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 8:09 am

No, it's going to be still the same ICA rejecting your application. Actually they will probably find your attempt to apply once again from India as something working against you as an attempt to game the system.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 8:49 am

venka81 wrote:Hi All,

Thanks for the suggestions, Am an EP holder and my in-laws are currently in India. I applied for their tourist visa through online portal, however it got rejected twice with no reasons given. Hence thought to check with experts here if I reapply again, would there be any chance for getting it approved?

Will it work, if i reapply from india? or reapplying through online portal in SG itself will work?

Need your valuable suggestions.

Thanks,


From your first post....

venka81 wrote:My in-law stayed in Singapore in the month of may'15, but unknowingly he overstayed for a day. At the time of departure the immigration team warned him. Will this be the reason for visa rejection?


Herein lies your problem, I believe. Your in-law is a male, who was here 5 months ago on an SVP and overstayed. He was warned by ICA (luckily not remanded). However, as it is a remanding offense, I doubt ICA is going to be too lenient. You haven't given us enough information, frankly, so it's kind of hard to deduce what you and he are trying to do.

Your gender is what? We are assuming you are a male, but that may well be wrong, according to one poster who seems to think you are from Esperanto. Your "in-law" is specifically what, relationship wise, to you? Father-in-Law, Son-in-Law, Brother-in Law, Wife's/husband's (depending on your gender) male cousin?

In the eyes of ICA, they see a male on a repeated application for a SVP who is a known overstayer. The record will be marked accordingly so every time he comes in the flag will pop up. Why would they deliberately put themselves into a position where they may have to expend time and energy to find an overstayer? Is this 'in-law' retired?, unemployed?, looking for a job?. A lot comes into play. When there is only enough to see in Singapore to last a maximum of 5 days, why would he need to return to Singapore in 5 months as he's already seen it all? Unless, of course, he (and you) is/are trying to scam the system.

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Re: Visitor Visa Request Rejected - Appeal Stauts & Next Steps - Suggestions

Postby venka81 » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 9:01 am

Hi Thank you,

Am a male and my father-in-law is retired and wishe to spend time with his grand daughter in Singapore. lhile in Last visit he missed to notice the 30 day stamping .
I accept what you say on the over-stay, though its not deliberately done.

Immigration team warned on over-stay, but while we enquired they informed that no issue will be there on the next visit, but the issue here is visa rejection

Is there any chance or I should wait for sometime to bring my in-law to singapore.
Is there any other visa type should I apply?

Please provide your valuable suggestions.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 9:41 am

Okay, picture is becoming a little clearer now.

You father in law, based on the new criteria set out by MOM for EP holders, would not be allowed to get an LTVP (Long Term Visit Pass). This is based on the new criteria of the EP holder making AT LEAST 10K/mo basic salary and only provides for the parents OF THE EP HOLDER, not of the spouse (e.g., your Father-in-Law).

So, regardless of your income, 'In-laws' would not be given LTVP in any case. (Granted you are only applying for a standard SVP). However, as your FiL has already been here once this year, on a SVP that he overstayed on, I have my doubts that ICA will grant another SVP this year as it appears that you are trying to subvert the MOM's criteria of not allowing 'in-law' into Singapore. I think you are going to have a rough time, to be honest. It's not going to matter where you apply for the visa from, but when you apply for it. (next year might be a good time). That's how I am seeing it. Rough, but there you go.

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NB: no, there is no other visa available to him.

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Re: Visitor Visa Request Rejected - Appeal Stauts & Next Steps - Suggestions

Postby x9200 » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 10:01 am

venka81 wrote:Hi All,

Thanks for the suggestions, Am an EP holder and my in-laws are currently in India.

I guess I know the answer but just to be completely clear: what sort of pass your wife holds in Singapore?

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Postby ecureilx » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:05 am

x9200 wrote:Are Indians that bonded to their in-laws (and vice-versa) that they have to live with them at least for a period once every few months?


well, let me put it this way, and coming from a bigoted guy like me (oops), it's a bit harsh

In South Asian culture, having the father/mother in law with the grandkids is a love hate thing. If you don't do it, you become a pariah in the society.

If you do it, you have to put up with occasional squabbles etc

But in this case, it is a true win-win, as it is the wife's father :) most of the squabbles (if I believe the tele dramas and real life stories) occur when it's the wife's mother in law is together ;)

sundaymorningstaple wrote:NB: no, there is no other visa available to him.


PS, all correct, but, from social visit cases who over stayed for a day or two, I have seen ICA being a bit lax in giving the new visa, after like 5 or 6 months or longer. As long as the person wasn't fined.

In this case, I would suggest OP to retry after a few months

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 11:59 am

That would be next year, correct? ;-)

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Postby ecureilx » Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:54 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:That would be next year, correct? ;-)


yes, the longer it is, the better it gets

Of course, Plan B :> JB :P :P

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Re:Rejected to enter to Singapore need help

Postby sree7 » Tue, 09 Feb 2016 2:54 pm

Hello all,

Happy Lunar NEW YEAR 2016.

I am Srinath from India.I have studied in Singapore 2008- 2009 and 2011-2012..Diploma courses with on the job training as well,thats the past...
And I applied a visit visa in July 2015,got the visa and came Singapore but they rejected the entry and send me back next day.Because I booked my flight ticket after 30 days.You guys know these kinda situations and all.It happen to me like evrybody.But the thing is now I got a job and applied an E.P it was rejected and they put me in blacklisted.So is there any way to lift my ban? Can the employer try anything to lift my ban and bring me to Singapore.Can i do anything like sending a requesting email or something?what to do now guys please give me some valuable information.

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Postby BBCWatcher » Tue, 09 Feb 2016 3:03 pm

Short answer: probably not.

Did MoM provide any explanation for their rejection of your Employment Pass? If so, what was their explanation?

If you failed to disclose the past entry problem if/when asked then that's ordinarily fatal, and for years probably. Immigration authorities around the world really don't like false statements or material omissions of fact. I hope you didn't do that.

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Postby ecureilx » Tue, 09 Feb 2016 3:28 pm

sree7 wrote:Hello all,

Happy Lunar NEW YEAR 2016.

I am Srinath from India.I have studied in Singapore 2008- 2009 and 2011-2012..Diploma courses with on the job training as well,thats the past...


In the past the OJT pass was severely abused. Hence I suspect your school (was it a private school?) may have triggered suspicion.

Your employer can appeal .. but chances are 50/50


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