It's a mix of intentionally hiding something and utter incompetence, sometimes both at the same time.Benji1975 wrote:In this day and age of decent mobile cameras etc, why are there adverts out there that offer very little information?? If I was the agent/owner I'd ensure my advert had 20-30 decents pics showing all the rooms etc. Instead, I'm looking at places and the worst so far was 2 pics, one of a toilet and one of the building from 100m away. Is this a deliberate ploy? Are they made up adverts to bolster number or properties available headline number?
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In a way SGn agents have witnessed the Klondike these past few years, it's been easy money. Now the rental market is going south, and I suspect many agents are going to get a 'rude awakening'.Benji1975 wrote:In this day and age of decent mobile cameras etc, why are there adverts out there that offer very little information?? If I was the agent/owner I'd ensure my advert had 20-30 decents pics showing all the rooms etc. Instead, I'm looking at places and the worst so far was 2 pics, one of a toilet and one of the building from 100m away. Is this a deliberate ploy? Are they made up adverts to bolster number or properties available headline number?
Joyless, yes that's a good word to describe it. I'm currently getting an attempted ream by an agent trying to get our tenancy deposit back. The kind of 'you can't touch me, and you know it' positioning is pretty amazing. But hey-ho... there is little customer protection in Singapore in any sector. (Renting, 'Sale of Goods', etc).Benji1975 wrote:Cool, if we head out there I'll look forward to dealing with agents then....sounds like a joyless experience.
On a similar subject, when the rent is neatly rounded to the nearest thousand and described as negotiable, any idea what percentage reduction is 'the norm'? I read somewhere about losing face and sometimes incentives given like free months rent. On a place costing 5-6k a month, if signed up for 2 years, would a 10% reduction be possible? more maybe? Ben
This. Make their greed work for you.sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Then tell the agent that in addition to the agent's commission on the final rental price you will give him double the difference in rent, e.g., if the rental is 2k/mo then the commission would be one months rent for the two year lease. If he can negotiate the rental down say 10% to 1.8K then he would get 2.2K as a commission for the 2 year lease or an extra 200 over the original commission if rented at 2K. It works.
What did you learn the hard way? And why hire an agent? Lots of people on this board have dealt with LL agents with much better success than any agent allegedly representing the tenant.fusu1111 wrote:It's just the nature of the market, and the landlords always have the upper hand. Do hire a decent agent though, learned it the hard way...
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Strong Eagle wrote:What did you learn the hard way? And why hire an agent? Lots of people on this board have dealt with LL agents with much better success than any agent allegedly representing the tenant.fusu1111 wrote:It's just the nature of the market, and the landlords always have the upper hand. Do hire a decent agent though, learned it the hard way...
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And far too many tenants have posted horror stories about their own agents being worse than useless when it comes to getting promised repairs made or getting deposits back. So, tell me again what a tenant's agent can do that you cannot do for yourself?
What about townhouses? Or houses within a condo development? If you aren't fussed whether it is a older property, you can get a house with a smallish back yard/patio and you still have the children play area, pool, etc. Arcadia/sommerville/watten/gallop residences have all that, I think Illoura tooBenji1975 wrote:Cheers Eagle, again, a good insight.
Yeah, looking at semi's or terraced and budget between 4 and 5', maybe more depending on package offered. We really want a garden as our children are used to playing in garden. Ok, luxury in SG but we're basing all the sums on being able to go out there lifestyle we want I guess.
Between the 5 and 6 range have seen some lovely full furnished places and can tell vacant as have blank photos frames set up. Past that, it sounds all very complicated and take everything agent says with pinch of salt! I'll go with assumption that you are trying to be had over until proven otherwise.
Are their no ex-pats who offer a 'Mr/Mrs fix it' service...surely must be a market for that! You pay a fee and they advise, once over there, on all aspects of integrating...kinda like a locally knowledged part time executive PA lol. I think some of you guys could start a new business.
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