When there are issues during the tenancy responsible agents get things resolved.JR8 wrote:For a start, the agent was paid to find you a property for a fixed period of time, fine, that why you hired them. But if you choose to stay, and both LL and tenant are happy that the rent stays the same, what additional work is the agent they doing that justifies payment?
Right now, the agent is collecting the commission from LL because he is representing him. Is it normal to collect it from the tenant during renewal? I will later try to speak with LL and see if we can by pass the agent during renewal but I don't want to have the TA held against me at that point of timeThe tenant shall pay the agency renewal commission either
i) at the prevailing industrial rate plus GST; or
ii) S$________________________ plus GST at the prevailing rate for every one (1) year or less period of extension of lease. Total renewal commission payable S$ ____________________ inclusive of GST.
Yes, it is normal.newbiebuyer wrote:Is it normal to collect it from the tenant during renewal?
Why not insist on removing the clause before you sign to avoid any chance of that happening later? You can tell the agent that if you engage him/her for help with a renewal, then you will negotiate his/her fee at that time. In the current market, the agent and LL are probably not willing to lose a commission and tenant now over the issue.newbiebuyer wrote:I will later try to speak with LL and see if we can by pass the agent during renewal but I don't want to have the TA held against me at that point of time
Nobody can force you to agree to pay any commission on the renewal and doing it, if you don't use any agent would be just absurd. I had an agent and did not agree to have such clause included. Agents may say, it's standard (meaning, everybody happily agrees to have it with no questions asked), but this is just a BS. You are free to agree or disagree for just about anything that goes to the agreement.newbiebuyer wrote:I have a similar but slightly different situation. I am going to rent a house. I don't have an agent representing me and I am dealing directly with the LL's agent. I am about the sign the TA which says that:Right now, the agent is collecting the commission from LL because he is representing him. Is it normal to collect it from the tenant during renewal? I will later try to speak with LL and see if we can by pass the agent during renewal but I don't want to have the TA held against me at that point of timeThe tenant shall pay the agency renewal commission either
i) at the prevailing industrial rate plus GST; or
ii) S$________________________ plus GST at the prevailing rate for every one (1) year or less period of extension of lease. Total renewal commission payable S$ ____________________ inclusive of GST.
Counter argument for "it's standard:" Slavery used to be standard as well.x9200 wrote:Agents may say, it's standard (meaning, everybody happily agrees to have it with no questions asked)
I am trying to push back with the agent now. What's the ideal clause to have for renewal?x9200 wrote:I had an agent and did not agree to have such clause included.
I think renewal options are pretty one-sided in practice, as the LL can just demand an above-market rate to get you out. Personally, I'd be fine including a clause about paying the agent a renewal commission on the condition that I (not the landlord) choose to engage the agent in the renewal process, but the ideal clause for you is whatever terms you're most comfortable with.newbiebuyer wrote:I am trying to push back with the agent now. What's the ideal clause to have for renewal?
As mentioned earlier, it's whatever you want it to be. All depends on the parties. With my previous TA, the commission upon renewal was only to be paid by the LL and it had its justification because the LL lived overseas so he reckoned out some agent's help might be needed.newbiebuyer wrote:Thanks Sunny1123, x9200 for the quick response!!
I am trying to push back with the agent now. What's the ideal clause to have for renewal?x9200 wrote:I had an agent and did not agree to have such clause included.
1. Is it just an option to renew without mentioning anything about agent commission?
OR
2. Is it an option to renew and mentioning agent commission (if any) to be paid by tenant without specifying the amount ?
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