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Chances of getting EP??

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Chances of getting EP??

Post by youdontknowme » Fri, 15 May 2015 10:35 am

Thanks all for the response. Will see how it goes :D
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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by Strong Eagle » Fri, 15 May 2015 11:17 am

You need to make more money. You are a diploma holder but not degreed. After 7 years you only make 4.5K per month... in many roles you should be making 7 or 8 K per month. It's not going to happen in my view.

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Post by Barnsley » Fri, 15 May 2015 11:31 am

Its up to your employer to apply for the pass they feel you are suitable for.
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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by the lynx » Fri, 15 May 2015 11:45 am

Strong Eagle wrote:You need to make more money. You are a diploma holder but not degreed. After 7 years you only make 4.5K per month... in many roles you should be making 7 or 8 K per month. It's not going to happen in my view.
Did you mean that one's salary has to be directly proportional to the number of years?

:looks at own number of years: :cry:

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by bgd » Fri, 15 May 2015 12:23 pm

General question. What is the advantage to an employee being on an EP as opposed to other work permits, SPass for example? I realise there are minimum salary bands but does it really equate to more money in hand or are there other benefits?

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by the lynx » Fri, 15 May 2015 12:31 pm

bgd wrote:General question. What is the advantage to an employee being on an EP as opposed to other work permits, SPass for example? I realise there are minimum salary bands but does it really equate to more money in hand or are there other benefits?
Some promotional items are only applicable to Singaporean citizens, permanent residents and EP holders only. Membership to some clubs as well.

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 15 May 2015 12:38 pm

Additionally, Dependent Visas are available (like say for a spouse) whereby they are not when on S passes.
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Post by ecureilx » Fri, 15 May 2015 5:35 pm

the lynx wrote: Some promotional items are only applicable to Singaporean citizens, permanent residents and EP holders only. Membership to some clubs as well.
And a wrong notion that S pass = work permit (maids/workers) and some companies - like Singtel are treating an S pass holder likewisea asking for deposit etc, which EP holders don't have to

And S pass means no CC (I think so ...)

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by bgd » Fri, 15 May 2015 5:48 pm

Okay, that's interesting. Seems like having an EP does have some benefit other than financial.

I'm intrigued by the mention of club membership. I guess country clubs and the like, although the financial requirements would keep most away.

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by ecureilx » Sat, 16 May 2015 2:31 am

bgd wrote:Okay, that's interesting. Seems like having an EP does have some benefit other than financial.
Recently I was asked to fill in a survey form, for a group I help out.

The residency had the following categories:
Citizen
PR
Expat
WP/SPass holder

I asked what the meaning of Expat was, and the group admin said that it refers to "EP and PEP Holders" :D

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by Strong Eagle » Sat, 16 May 2015 8:43 am

the lynx wrote:
Strong Eagle wrote:You need to make more money. You are a diploma holder but not degreed. After 7 years you only make 4.5K per month... in many roles you should be making 7 or 8 K per month. It's not going to happen in my view.
Did you mean that one's salary has to be directly proportional to the number of years?

:looks at own number of years: :cry:
I'm not saying directly proportional... but I am saying that a salary that is too low for a number of years of experience, particularly when compared to others in a similar industry sends up lots of red flags. And a question that can reasonably be asked is: Why should this person get an EP when they are apparently not performing at a level that would provide them with a salary in line with others?

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 16 May 2015 9:08 am

Crappy employer?
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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by Strong Eagle » Sat, 16 May 2015 11:08 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Crappy employer?
Yes, I was going to add that one in as well but I figured you would jump in. Crappy employer as in, "we max'ed out our S-Passes, so now we're going to pay just enough to get some sort of EP... and maybe MOM will be suspicious that we aren't actually paying that amount... but what the hell."

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Sun, 17 May 2015 12:10 am

perxactly.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers

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Re: Chances of getting EP??

Post by x9200 » Sun, 17 May 2015 12:07 pm

youdontknowme wrote:Hi there, i would like to upgrade my work permit to EP and im wondering how high will my chances be ??

Profile:
-46 F msian
-Diploma holder
-Currently on work permit
-In management executive role/assistant manager
-worked 7 years in singapore (always been in the same company and got promoted and promoted and salary raise)
-4.5k /month

Thankyou!
What do you mean by management executive role? I am asking seeing SE's response that you should make 7-8k and I have some feeling that you may be actually in a role of an administrative assistant, not a manager. If this is the case, then IMO your salary is fine.

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