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Pardon me, babes?

Postby calugaruvaxile » Sun, 10 May 2015 9:07 am

Fascinating article today in "the straits". The foreigners seem to be like an infection to the Sg ecosystem, and the visas should cost 50k a piece or so ("indulgences" to pay for the sin).

To me this is quite clear, ST = gov't. So this is the message passed down to the flock: work access in Sg has now a pricetag, and it should be 50k or so. And no COEs and HDBs for the non-citizens. Harasho, harasho, this way the unemployment will reach peak negative values (each of them will need to work 3 jobs, AND wash their undies)

Personally, I can't wait to see this happening! It should be funny afterwards. Everything which has a beginning must have an end, the Oracle said :lol:

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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby PNGMK » Mon, 11 May 2015 9:08 am

This is actually a trend in developed countries as well. Australia is mooting lifting it's PR application fees to around the same AUD$50k. The argument is that those who can really pay that will have a larger impact in the country than those who just fit into the current points system.

I'm not sure how I feel about it.
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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby Steve1960 » Mon, 11 May 2015 9:18 am

Yes but this troll is suggesting it applies to work access not just PR so includes work passes. The OP is a bit confused, clearly taking a pop at wealthy or well placed foreigners but rolling in the maids and construction workers too.

It just lead me to try and imagine what Singapore would be like if there was a mass exodus of foreign talent and low paid workers. Sinkies washing their own underwear, collecting garbage and unemployment sky rocketing as foreign companies pull out of the country.

The trolls like this one don't see it that way of course

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Postby calugaruvaxile » Mon, 11 May 2015 9:52 am

Steve1960 wrote:Yes but this troll is suggesting it applies to work access not just PR so includes work passes. The OP is a bit confused, clearly taking a pop at wealthy or well placed foreigners but rolling in the maids and construction workers too.

It just lead me to try and imagine what Singapore would be like if there was a mass exodus of foreign talent and low paid workers. Sinkies washing their own underwear, collecting garbage and unemployment sky rocketing as foreign companies pull out of the country.

The trolls like this one don't see it that way of course


I'm no troll. You may think that all educated wp-holders will come to Sg to work for n years, then out. But they get families to house and kids to school. They need PR to make a life in Sg. Who's gonna pay the 50k? If you work in a MNC, you'll ask the company for it. If the companies won't pay, then no one will apply anymore.

Easy with labelling ...

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 11 May 2015 11:32 am

Link to the article? Or atleast tell us what to google for.

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Postby Steve1960 » Mon, 11 May 2015 11:45 am

calugaruvaxile wrote:I'm no troll. You may think that all educated wp-holders will come to Sg to work for n years, then out. But they get families to house and kids to school. They need PR to make a life in Sg. Who's gonna pay the 50k? If you work in a MNC, you'll ask the company for it. If the companies won't pay, then no one will apply anymore.

Easy with labelling ...


When the MNC's cannot get foreign talent and Singaporeans don't meet the skill set they need they will relocate out of Singapore. Then where will you be?

If Singapore actually had more home grown talent at the high end of International / global business I would agree with you.............but they don't. All this patriotism will achieve is to have shot yourself in the foot if it ever happens :D

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 11 May 2015 2:06 pm

She is definitely not a troll and appears to be quite the chef as well.

Calugaruvaxile, are you, perchance, in the F & B industry here? Maybe at one of the Casinos? Just being nosey, nothing more. ;-)

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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby Brah » Mon, 11 May 2015 8:30 pm

Steve1960 wrote:When the MNC's cannot get foreign talent and Singaporeans don't meet the skill set they need they will relocate out of Singapore. Then where will you be?

If Singapore actually had more home grown talent at the high end of International / global business I would agree with you.............but they don't. All this patriotism will achieve is to have shot yourself in the foot if it ever happens :D

I know I have said this kind of thing more than a few times here, but a year later and the story is about the same, only worse.

Basically everyone I know is looking to leave the country, from a variety of industries. And soon.

So more a question of when rather than if.
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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby calugaruvaxile » Mon, 11 May 2015 10:16 pm

Wd40 wrote:Link to the article? Or atleast tell us what to google for.


I learned that we are not allowed to post links from ST. The article is called "COE for PRs and the case of the Javan Mynah" and it's still online.

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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby calugaruvaxile » Mon, 11 May 2015 10:21 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:She is definitely not a troll and appears to be quite the chef as well.

Calugaruvaxile, are you, perchance, in the F & B industry here? Maybe at one of the Casinos? Just being nosey, nothing more. ;-)


No; I was (I am still, but no longer in Sg) in tech/o&g. All our engineers were mainly from China, India or Phils. Two or three locals per a total of 80-something. And people were resigning and leaving Sg when they had PR rejected (very difficult or impossible to get kids into public schools, too high costs of living, etc). So they were either going back or moving to Aussieland.

The job bank didn't do much. There have been 5 or 6 local applicants, out of which 4 didn't show up and the others realized they were applying for the wrong job during the interview.

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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby Wd40 » Mon, 11 May 2015 10:24 pm

calugaruvaxile wrote:
Wd40 wrote:Link to the article? Or atleast tell us what to google for.


I learned that we are not allowed to post links from ST. The article is called "COE for PRs and the case of the Javan Mynah" and it's still online.


Thanks. Its a opinion not an article. Anyways, its not going to work, waste discussion.

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Postby calugaruvaxile » Mon, 11 May 2015 10:28 pm

Steve1960 wrote:
calugaruvaxile wrote:I'm no troll. You may think that all educated wp-holders will come to Sg to work for n years, then out. But they get families to house and kids to school. They need PR to make a life in Sg. Who's gonna pay the 50k? If you work in a MNC, you'll ask the company for it. If the companies won't pay, then no one will apply anymore.

Easy with labelling ...


When the MNC's cannot get foreign talent and Singaporeans don't meet the skill set they need they will relocate out of Singapore. Then where will you be?

If Singapore actually had more home grown talent at the high end of International / global business I would agree with you.............but they don't. All this patriotism will achieve is to have shot yourself in the foot if it ever happens :D


I left Sg already, about a month ago. Gave up PR and moved on. So there will be no consequences for me.

Regarding whatever talents Sg has, they are definitely not in the engineering/tech. Maybe in other branches. In Engineering School in NUS/NTU, the vast majority of students are PRC anyway.

I really think locals are too afraid to go for specialized jobs (prevents job-hopping). If they do, they prefer to go for public-owned institutions, with high job stability.

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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby calugaruvaxile » Mon, 11 May 2015 10:29 pm

Wd40 wrote:
calugaruvaxile wrote:
Wd40 wrote:Link to the article? Or atleast tell us what to google for.


I learned that we are not allowed to post links from ST. The article is called "COE for PRs and the case of the Javan Mynah" and it's still online.


Thanks. Its a opinion not an article. Anyways, its not going to work, waste discussion.


this is ST, not TRS. Whatever is there is govt's point of view.

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Postby Wd40 » Mon, 11 May 2015 11:36 pm

calugaruvaxile wrote:[quote="Wd40"][quote="calugaruvaxile"][quote="Wd40"]Link to the article? Or atleast tell us what to google for.


I learned that we are not allowed to post links from ST. The article is called "COE for PRs and the case of the Javan Mynah" and it's still online.[/quote]

Thanks. Its a opinion not an article. Anyways, its not going to work, waste discussion.[/quote]

this is ST, not TRS. Whatever is there is govt's point of view.[/quote]

That is an over simplistic view.

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Re: Pardon me, babes?

Postby x9200 » Tue, 12 May 2015 6:48 am

calugaruvaxile wrote:this is ST, not TRS. Whatever is there is govt's point of view.

I don't know neither why you think this article is of any significance. The gov paper only means it publishes things not objecting the government and pro-gov in general but not necessary being a gov-tube all the time.

This specific article is not necessary a hidden announcement of anything that may happen. It may be just a tool for moderation of the public opinion selling the fact that the gov is still concerned and does something. Lastly, it may be just nothing gov related - a popular topic picked up by a journalist.


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