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KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby Barnsley » Tue, 05 May 2015 5:02 pm

Terminal to be Jurong East at the Singapore end ....

Jurong East MRT is unpleasent at the best of times with the amount of folk there swapping lines already. This should make it even better.
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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby zzm9980 » Tue, 05 May 2015 5:20 pm

What's the ETA on this?

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Postby Barnsley » Tue, 05 May 2015 5:22 pm

zzm9980 wrote:What's the ETA on this?


PM just been quoted on the news , saying that "It wont be as soon as originally stated"
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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby x9200 » Thu, 07 May 2015 11:22 am

Targeted 2020.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lump ... Speed_Rail

As of the overcrowded JE MRT, I doubt it will be there.

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Postby Barnsley » Thu, 07 May 2015 11:55 am

x9200 wrote:Targeted 2020.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lump ... Speed_Rail

As of the overcrowded JE MRT, I doubt it will be there.


Surely its going to be connected to the MRT network somehow???

Otherwise how are you going to move all the people quickly who will be arrving and departing.

Or is the cross island line going to go to the new station?
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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby x9200 » Thu, 07 May 2015 12:42 pm

They likely have to build a separate railway tracks for the train. I dont't think it would all fit to the current JE MRT station. Somwhere underground, or near, a bit further down South with some a monorail or other short distance linking options?
Sort of like Changi MRT.

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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby singapore eagle » Thu, 07 May 2015 12:58 pm

I have my doubts about the Singapore government's enthusiasm for this project.

It could be a real game changer, but the problem is that the economic benefits would accrue mainly to Malaysia.

If Singapore really wanted to improve connectivity with Malaysia it would sort out the mess at the land border crossings. It hasn't, and I can only conclude it doesn't want to.

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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby x9200 » Thu, 07 May 2015 1:04 pm

But 90 min to KL without all the fuss of getting to the airport/through/and back appears tempting...

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Postby the lynx » Thu, 07 May 2015 1:22 pm

I doubt it will link. Not even sharing the same station. My guess it that the line ends near Jurong East station with a short walk over. Probably the distance would be like how one would walk to change lines in Outram Park, Buona Vista or Paya Lebar station.

I hope they are not doing this like how Malaysia does its LRT system, where an interchange means that you have to walk really far to change the line. Just like the mess they call Masjid Jamek station.

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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby nakatago » Thu, 07 May 2015 1:32 pm

singapore eagle wrote:If Singapore really wanted to improve connectivity with Malaysia it would sort out the mess at the land border crossings. It hasn't, and I can only conclude it doesn't want to.


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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby Barnsley » Thu, 07 May 2015 1:47 pm

the lynx wrote:I doubt it will link. Not even sharing the same station. My guess it that the line ends near Jurong East station with a short walk over. Probably the distance would be like how one would walk to change lines in Outram Park, Buona Vista or Paya Lebar station.

I hope they are not doing this like how Malaysia does its LRT system, where an interchange means that you have to walk really far to change the line. Just like the mess they call Masjid Jamek station.


Short walks for transit is vital .... especially if it involves hundreds of folk at once. :D
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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby Barnsley » Thu, 07 May 2015 1:48 pm

singapore eagle wrote:I have my doubts about the Singapore government's enthusiasm for this project.

It could be a real game changer, but the problem is that the economic benefits would accrue mainly to Malaysia.

If Singapore really wanted to improve connectivity with Malaysia it would sort out the mess at the land border crossings. It hasn't, and I can only conclude it doesn't want to.


The Govt really doesnt seem keen does it ...........

We shall see what happens when the GDP numbers come under pressure. :D
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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby x9200 » Thu, 07 May 2015 2:12 pm

Barnsley wrote:
the lynx wrote:I doubt it will link. Not even sharing the same station. My guess it that the line ends near Jurong East station with a short walk over. Probably the distance would be like how one would walk to change lines in Outram Park, Buona Vista or Paya Lebar station.

I hope they are not doing this like how Malaysia does its LRT system, where an interchange means that you have to walk really far to change the line. Just like the mess they call Masjid Jamek station.


Short walks for transit is vital .... especially if it involves hundreds of folk at once. :D

Not necessary. More importan is the space to accomodate them. Again, take any airport as an example. This train is not going to be for local commuters. I would be more concerned about sufficient cabs in the area.

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Re: KL --> Singapore High Speed Train

Postby PNGMK » Thu, 07 May 2015 5:16 pm

It won't happen. MY is too poor ultimately. I'd like to see it though - in fact all the way to BBK and Yangon.
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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 08 May 2015 10:21 pm

Barnsley wrote:[quote="singapore eagle"]I have my doubts about the Singapore government's enthusiasm for this project.

It could be a real game changer, but the problem is that the economic benefits would accrue mainly to Malaysia.

If Singapore really wanted to improve connectivity with Malaysia it would sort out the mess at the land border crossings. It hasn't, and I can only conclude it doesn't want to.


The Govt really doesnt seem keen does it ...........

We shall see what happens when the GDP numbers come under pressure. :D[/quote]
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PNGMK wrote:It won't happen. MY is too poor ultimately. I'd like to see it though - in fact all the way to BBK and Yangon.


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