Just my 2 centsTS1989 wrote:.
ecureilx wrote:Just my 2 centsTS1989 wrote:.
Ica folks never or rarely tell the reason for refusing entry .
Most likely they watched your travel pattern (are you a male or female) and add your county of origin and decided you have done enough site seeing in Singapore
Or in the extreme case your nice face almost matched up with somebody on a watch list.
If you are wanted they would have picked you up. But for grey area they tend to finger print and refuse entry
So in other words ICA organized a small performance show for the OP. They simply could'ev told him no reason but still decided to make up a story with the airline ticket (and they were so lucky finding his ticket not confirmed) and lied to him.
Go to ica website, download from 14A and with a local sponsor, submit and pray.
S Pass is from MOM and it's not necessary the case where MOM checks with ICA before approving your pass ... because you make a few self declaration and lying on one of them is good cause to revoke your IPA. You have to declare the past issue of denied entry.
I don't know what was it but if this was some alcoholic beverage you had writing the above sentence, please, I would like to have it to.
I don't hit the bottle (or jug) on work days, and .. I would like to leave it at thatx9200 wrote:I don't know what was it but if this was some alcoholic beverage you had writing the above sentence, please, I would like to have it to.
That may be the actual trigger/suspicion.TS1989 wrote:Hi, I am female, from the Philippines. It was my second time going out of Singapore when this happened.
The procedure that worked most of the times:1. How long does it take and with a local sponsor, is it done by post? Or the sponsor must go to ICA bldg?
You can attach it, but I doubt it will make much of a difference.2. Again, would it help if I attach documentation from airline showing my ticket was issued at 10AM that day therefore resulting to "not confirmed" status upon immigration check at 8AM?
if you have any communication from the employer, possibly you should attach it to the 14A, to support the request.There is an employer wanting to hire me. They havent given me the spass application form so I havent told them my situation yet. I am also waiting for HR to call for salary negotiation.
That's a doubled edged question: if the HR is understanding and the employer wants you, they would take it positively. If the employer is very kiasu thinking it will complicate their own life, and they may stop talking to you. I can't answer that.3. Should I tell HR about my situation during salary negotiation or just wait for Spass application form and fill it out and send back to HR and let them read it?
For the employer ? You can say due to misunderstanding on return ticket, refused entry (I hope that is good)4. Do I write down the story like what I have done in this thread on the Spass form or do I just indicate what was in writing which was "refused entry due to immigration regulations". and then explain the story verbally?
From what I have seen, and helped, and dealt, most of those who get entry refused is due to one of the reasons I quoted before. The unwritten policy being, if in doubt, refuse the person entry. And it is not ICA's prerogative to check or counter check your claims and counter claims. Or vet your stories or supporting documents, for an entry visa that is a privilege extended to some nationalities. And that includes validating "RED RIBBON" invite letters, if ICA feels there is no need to even validate the document, they will not.5. What are the chances that MOM will approve the Spass despite the situation?
If you have no other story that you forgot, or should disclose to ICA, you should get a successful appeal.I really hope MOM approves it, because I need that IPA in order to appeal to ICA as mentioned by the IO. Hopefully, ICA accepts it.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Second time on the same trip? I'd say most likely. No matter what OP does, too many of her free-lancing fellow filipinas in the pubs probably did her in.ecureilx wrote:That may be the actual trigger/suspicion.TS1989 wrote:Hi, I am female, from the Philippines. It was my second time going out of Singapore when this happened.
Sad to say .. that may be the case ..zzm9980 wrote:Second time on the same trip? I'd say most likely. No matter what OP does, too many of her free-lancing fellow filipinas in the pubs probably did her in.ecureilx wrote:That may be the actual trigger/suspicion.TS1989 wrote:Hi, I am female, from the Philippines. It was my second time going out of Singapore when this happened.
Since you can't remember if it was a ticket or an itinerary, I seriously suspect it was just an itinerary, which is used to fool the ICA officers quite often, and even some went the whole 9 yards getting dummy tickets, which, while ICA has no prerogative to verify with the airline, for them, if it looks dodgy/unconfirmed, then that's what it is.TS1989 wrote:Hi all, thank you so much for taking the time to reply and answer my queries. Appreciate it very much.
@ecureilx: Im not sure if my sister can sponsor as she only holds an spass. I have a previous colleague/friend, a citizen, whom I can ask.
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Now that you've mentioned it, I cant quite remember. I don't have the print out anymore as the IO took it from me and I dont have an email copy. What I have on email is the confirmed itinerary sent by the airline during my verification process with them and they confirmed that ticket was issued at 10am.
I agree. It makes sense as the airline said the ticket was issued at 10am that day and they sent me a confirmed flight itinerary via email. That means the print out given to me by the agency may have been just an itinerary since flight wasnt confirmed yet at the time.ecureilx wrote: Since you can't remember if it was a ticket or an itinerary, I seriously suspect it was just an itinerary, which is used to fool the ICA officers quite often, and even some went the whole 9 yards getting dummy tickets, which, while ICA has no prerogative to verify with the airline, for them, if it looks dodgy/unconfirmed, then that's what it is.
Meaning SC/PR will write on my behalf? Or do I write the letter as myself and just indicate name and signature of a local sponsor at the bottom?ecureilx wrote:You need to ask a Citizen of PR to write in the letter. You do sound like committed to Singapore, unlike a few Filipinos, who, when refused entry, go 'bahala nah' and go to middle east and such ..
Thank you so much for saying that. Means so much at a time like this. I dont have any previous record, etc. There's no stamp on my passport, there's only a reference number written with a ballpen. Which is the same ref# on the piece of paper they gave me upon release in Malaysia.ecureilx wrote:
And, again, since you seem to have no black mark, your appeal should work.
If you read my previous posts, I even provided the link for the form to use.TS1989 wrote: Sorry, this might be a stretch, but I'll ask anyway. Is there any appeal letter format in this forum?
Yes I am quite committed to Singapore as I've worked there for 4 years now. Plus, my sister just started working there, too and I had to leave her so suddenly because of what happened.
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