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Questionable qualifications ........

Post by Barnsley » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 4:32 pm

Just read on Asia's Number One news portal , that the IDA is investigating the qualifications of one of their employees.

Further research has shown that there are a number of concerned citizens on the issue :o :o
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Post by Wd40 » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 7:40 pm

Yes, I read it on the Singaporeans voice for Singaporeans site. Apparently, the university from which she got her MBA has closed down since and this is what has got the locals angry. IDA has replied that she was hired on the basis of her bachelors degree.

What the locals dont understand is, a degree is not a necessity to get a job. They also made a big hoo-ha in case of the VP of Deutsche bank who came into the news for the wrong reasons. These guys went into this Linked In profile and found that he is from an Indian University. The comment was something along the lines of "We graduate from NUS and NTU still no jobs for us, but someone from 3rd world country university is getting a job".Cant blame them, their education system is such that only top scorers at very young age(PSLE) get to go to university. So they think going to university means mission accomplished.

I wonder what their reactions is going to be when they find out that some high flying expats dont have degrees :mrgreen:

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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 8:08 pm

Wd40 wrote: I wonder what their reactions is going to be when they find out that some high flying expats dont have degrees :mrgreen:
Or even low-flying ones! :mrgreen:
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Post by nakatago » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 8:41 pm

Wd40 wrote:a degree is not a necessity to get a job.


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?????
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Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 9:36 pm

Is true.
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Post by Wd40 » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 4:32 pm

Apparently it is Linked In that did her in. One of her colleagues or someone who knows her must have lodged the compaint to IDA. Linked In is a double edged sword.

The TRE guys being keyword warriers, first thing they will do if they get your name is go look up your name in Facebook, Linked In and pretty much the web to get any information that can be construed as dodgy.

Remove your photo from Linked In and keep only as little information there as needed, unless you are looking for a job. Facebook needless to say, should only be visible to friends and real people whom you really know.

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Post by Barnsley » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 5:25 pm

Wd40 wrote:Apparently it is Linked In that did her in. One of her colleagues or someone who knows her must have lodged the compaint to IDA. Linked In is a double edged sword.

The TRE guys being keyword warriers, first thing they will do if they get your name is go look up your name in Facebook, Linked In and pretty much the web to get any information that can be construed as dodgy.

Remove your photo from Linked In and keep only as little information there as needed, unless you are looking for a job. Facebook needless to say, should only be visible to friends and real people whom you really know.

Will see how the Goverment responds...

Folks who already have gained PR/Citizenship I am guessing their qualifications do not get revisited once you leave the sphere of EP's
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Re: Questionable qualifications ........

Post by TMD » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 5:30 pm

Wd40 wrote:Apparently it is Linked In that did her in. One of her colleagues or someone who knows her must have lodged the compaint to IDA. Linked In is a double edged sword.

The TRE guys being keyword warriers, first thing they will do if they get your name is go look up your name in Facebook, Linked In and pretty much the web to get any information that can be construed as dodgy.

Remove your photo from Linked In and keep only as little information there as needed, unless you are looking for a job. Facebook needless to say, should only be visible to friends and real people whom you really know.
Why the need to hide if one is truthful about their achievements , be it in the academics, career or experience ?

IMO, honesty and integrity remains the best defense (and perhaps weapon) against unwarranted accusations be it online or otherwise.

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Post by JR8 » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 5:36 pm

@WD40. Quite. Nothing on the web appears under my actual name, and that was a policy/decision I started before moving to this little island. For Facebook, that isn't either, I see no virtue in being searchable by the whole world.

Sometimes it feels like a bit of an ongoing battle, esp. with Facebook. They and other sites tend to make you as searchable and transparent as possible. Each time they update their sites they usually add new ways of further breaking down those barriers, and in response one has to seek and add new limitations. It required some work for me to feel I was using and benefiting from it, rather than it from me.
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Re: Questionable qualifications ........

Post by TMD » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 5:38 pm

Wd40 wrote:Yes, I read it on the Singaporeans voice for Singaporeans site. Apparently, the university from which she got her MBA has closed down since and this is what has got the locals angry. IDA has replied that she was hired on the basis of her bachelors degree.

What the locals dont understand is, a degree is not a necessity to get a job. They also made a big hoo-ha in case of the VP of Deutsche bank who came into the news for the wrong reasons. These guys went into this Linked In profile and found that he is from an Indian University. The comment was something along the lines of "We graduate from NUS and NTU still no jobs for us, but someone from 3rd world country university is getting a job".Cant blame them, their education system is such that only top scorers at very young age(PSLE) get to go to university. So they think going to university means mission accomplished.

I wonder what their reactions is going to be when they find out that some high flying expats dont have degrees :mrgreen:
I disagree.

It is precisely the locals understand and appreciate the benefits of academic/paper achievements that allow them to place themselves at level playing field with most of the developed world.

One cannot blame them for holding similar if not higher expectations on non-Singaporeans who have or are looking for job here.

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Post by Wd40 » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 6:00 pm

TMD wrote:
Wd40 wrote:Yes, I read it on the Singaporeans voice for Singaporeans site. Apparently, the university from which she got her MBA has closed down since and this is what has got the locals angry. IDA has replied that she was hired on the basis of her bachelors degree.

What the locals dont understand is, a degree is not a necessity to get a job. They also made a big hoo-ha in case of the VP of Deutsche bank who came into the news for the wrong reasons. These guys went into this Linked In profile and found that he is from an Indian University. The comment was something along the lines of "We graduate from NUS and NTU still no jobs for us, but someone from 3rd world country university is getting a job".Cant blame them, their education system is such that only top scorers at very young age(PSLE) get to go to university. So they think going to university means mission accomplished.

I wonder what their reactions is going to be when they find out that some high flying expats dont have degrees :mrgreen:
I disagree.

It is precisely the locals understand and appreciate the benefits of academic/paper achievements that allow them to place themselves at level playing field with most of the developed world.

One cannot blame them for holding similar if not higher expectations on non-Singaporeans who have or are looking for job here.
So you want to benchmark against the developed world? Okay. Have you interacted with lots of guys from US, I know so many guys who were like truck drivers, guitarists etc and then changed their careers to tech, like database administrators, without any paper qualifications. You want proof, do Linked In search :mrgreen:

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Post by ecureilx » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 6:11 pm

Wd40 wrote: So you want to benchmark against the developed world? Okay. Have you interacted with lots of guys from US, I know so many guys who were like truck drivers, guitarists etc and then changed their careers to tech, like database administrators, without any paper qualifications. You want proof, do Linked In search :mrgreen:
No offense ... but I told you this before

You need to make more local friends

Quite a few Singaporeans also do career switching, and here it's called re-skilling

And the government does subsidise the career switching programs

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Post by Wd40 » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 6:22 pm

ecureilx wrote:
Wd40 wrote: So you want to benchmark against the developed world? Okay. Have you interacted with lots of guys from US, I know so many guys who were like truck drivers, guitarists etc and then changed their careers to tech, like database administrators, without any paper qualifications. You want proof, do Linked In search :mrgreen:
No offense ... but I told you this before

You need to make more local friends

Quite a few Singaporeans also do career switching, and here it's called re-skilling

And the government does subsidise the career switching programs
I am not denying that. I am talking about the need for paper qualifications, which TMD and guys on TRS insist that its necessary

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Re: Questionable qualifications ........

Post by maneo » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 6:30 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
Wd40 wrote: I wonder what their reactions is going to be when they find out that some high flying expats dont have degrees :mrgreen:
Or even low-flying ones! :mrgreen:
In certain fields relevant experience may be far more important than a degree.
In the high tech industry it used to be common to equate a bachelor's degree with 2 years of experience and a master's degree with 1 year of experience.

In addition, there are no degrees for leadership, if that's what's needed.

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Re: Questionable qualifications ........

Post by Wd40 » Wed, 22 Apr 2015 6:36 pm

Todays news :




http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/econom ... 63983.html





This is going to get the guys on TRS even more seething. :D

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