The surprise for me was that I didn't know SG has 'retrieved' any citizens who'd left to follow terrorism, never mind 57 of themearthfriendly wrote:This is news to me. It reminds me of the yellow ribbon project to re-integrate ex-offenders into society.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sin ... l?cid=fbsg
Maybe the JI affiliates who were picked up years ago ..JR8 wrote:The surprise for me was that I didn't know SG has 'retrieved' any citizens who'd left to follow terrorism, never mind 57 of themearthfriendly wrote:This is news to me. It reminds me of the yellow ribbon project to re-integrate ex-offenders into society.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sin ... l?cid=fbsg
This shouldn't be any surprise why US has a "Special Presidential Envoy" coming over specifically to learn a thing or two from Singapore about handling issues on terrorism.earthfriendly wrote:This is news to me. It reminds me of the yellow ribbon project to re-integrate ex-offenders into society.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/sin ... l?cid=fbsg
And there was me thinking Singapore learned the policy it uses regarding anti-terrorism from Israel.TMD wrote: This shouldn't be any surprise why US has a "Special Presidential Envoy" coming over specifically to learn a thing or two from Singapore about handling issues on terrorism.
Considering Washington's actions so far since 9/11, one shouldn't be surprise with its results in forms of IS formation, online beheading via social media and global surge of jihadist volunteers. Unknowingly as witness to all these, we have grown numb to violence and forget there are better ways than to "fight terror with terror".
In terms of military-to-military exchanges and intelligence sharing, perhaps.JR8 wrote:And there was me thinking Singapore learned the policy it uses regarding anti-terrorism from Israel.
9/11 was the supposed work of Al-Qaeda.JR8 wrote:9/11 was nothing less than a declaration of war, and guess what, here it is. IS are more about Sunni vs Shiite Islam than anything vs 'the West'. Let themselves blow each each to bits I say, just not on our soil.
The question that you should ask is did that policy worked ?JR8 wrote:So if fighting terror with terror is off-limits, how would you deal with IS/ISIS, the 'better ways' you talk of? Surrender to or appease a bunch of rag-tag albeit well funded anarchists?
A little exaggeration in your final sentence about the axis - But I do understand your fear and anger of the unknown entity called IS having seen what Jihadi John had done. Unfortunately, IS is not another Nazi regime nor Imperial Japan which you can firebomb nor nuke away.JR8 wrote: The British PM Neville Chamberlain did similar with regards to Germany in the 1930s. He returned home from Berlin valiantly proclaiming 'peace in our time'; all very peaceful, simple, almost proto-hippy. A few years later, by then uninterrupted and completely armed and ready for it's plans, Berlin and it's axis almost took over the whole world.
So, the SGn armed forces are schooled in their techniques by the IDF. Well it’s a given, a known known.TMD wrote:In terms of military-to-military exchanges and intelligence sharing, perhaps.JR8 wrote:And there was me thinking Singapore learned the policy it uses regarding anti-terrorism from Israel.
However, Singapore does not have an "occupied territory" to content with, nor does it practice extreme security measures in public. So far from "learning" from the Israelis, Singapore has found its own unique way to manage the risk while ensuring some social resilience in the event when it happens.
That is why they prefer to use the word "Rehabilitation".
At this point no one has a kin clue what you’re talking about. And they probably don’t care either. I mean are you some loony terrorist or something?TMD wrote:[While the IS (Al-Qaeda has no hands in this) is the outcome of a decade of (failed) US policy in the ME after 9/11 in the name of "war against terror", which includes installing a Shiite gov in Bagdad that ostracized the Sunni in Iraq. And if that wasn't exciting enough, the EU and US supported FSA in Syria while ignoring the warnings terrorist elements within the rebel groups.
And I expect the nice folks from ISD are currently looking up your home address...TMD wrote:So, here we are today, after having tried a Cook-book on how to prepare a fertile ground for seeds of terrorism to germinate, sporn and spread far beyond the ME theater, the US is still engaged in war which it declared almost 14 years ago.
Because they’re not here to ‘discuss counter-terrorism’ , they’re here to tell the SGns what they have to do, issuing orders.TMD wrote:The question that you should ask is did that policy worked ? And if it had worked, why the US govt send a high ranking official to this little tropical island which is as cosmopolitan and accessible as any major US cities, to discuss about counter-terrorism ?
What exaggeration, point it out. And no, being from the West I have no fear at all, after living through 40 years of IRA attrocities, including two in earshot/window-rattling distance in my home country I’m hardly likely to have ‘fear and anger’ concerning the rabble currently busy killing each other in the Middle East.TMD wrote:A little exaggeration in your final sentence about the axis - But I do understand your fear and anger of the unknown entity called IS having seen what Jihadi John had done. Unfortunately, IS is not another Nazi regime nor Imperial Japan which you can firebomb nor nuke away.
If the US has any answer to terrorism, the War would have ended long time ago.
According to that same CNA report, it quoted the visiting US GeneralJR8 wrote:I seriously doubt fighting terror is about engaging in military operations alone.TMD wrote:So, the SGn armed forces are schooled in their techniques by the IDF. Well it’s a given, a known known.
Such simplistic solution hasn't worked which I had elaborated extensively in my previous posting. Now that is a known known.
It is quite understandable that some will refuse to listen to a "loony terrorist".JR8 wrote:At this point no one has a kin clue what you’re talking about. And they probably don’t care either. I mean are you some loony terrorist or something?TMD wrote:[While the IS (Al-Qaeda has no hands in this) is the outcome of a decade of (failed) US policy in the ME after 9/11 in the name of "war against terror", which includes installing a Shiite gov in Bagdad that ostracized the Sunni in Iraq. And if that wasn't exciting enough, the EU and US supported FSA in Syria while ignoring the warnings terrorist elements within the rebel groups.
I am pretty alright with that rejection and I respect that.![]()
This is the first time I read a non-local calling Singapore's ISD guys "nice folks" !JR8 wrote:And I expect the nice folks from ISD are currently looking up your home address...TMD wrote:So, here we are today, after having tried a Cook-book on how to prepare a fertile ground for seeds of terrorism to germinate, sporn and spread far beyond the ME theater, the US is still engaged in war which it declared almost 14 years ago.
Wow... I guess someone's unpleasant job finally gets a recognition from folks of the "free world".
JR8 wrote:Because they’re not here to ‘discuss counter-terrorism’ , they’re here to tell the SGns what they have to do, issuing orders.TMD wrote:The question that you should ask is did that policy worked ? And if it had worked, why the US govt send a high ranking official to this little tropical island which is as cosmopolitan and accessible as any major US cities, to discuss about counter-terrorism ?
Difference is in scale.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Are the Isis massacres any different than the "Sook Ching" operation here in Singapore?
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