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PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby throwaway22 » Mon, 13 Apr 2015 10:38 pm

Long time member here but as you can tell I am using a throw away account for obvious reasons. So my wife, our daughter and I have lived here in Singapore for more than 6 years now.. We are originally from India but naturalized Australian citizens. Life here has been great so far and we see ourselves live here permanently so mulling on applying for PR

I work for a global company (not a financial org) looking after their Information Security function for the APMEA region. I make roughly 200k a year including bonus and sundries. My wife has the harder job of taking care of our daughter and me :) I know in the current climate our race will not work in our favor and us moving around countries does not help but we are willing to give it a go.

Just wanted to put this out there and see what everyone thinks? Any opinions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby Wd40 » Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:01 pm

Seriously, would you give up your Aussie passport and live here forever? Nobody is going to believe that :D

Singapore is a nice place to live your working life and save up on the crazy amount of Aussie taxes. But retirement, Australia it is.

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 13 Apr 2015 11:08 pm

Wd40 wrote:Seriously, would you give up your Aussie passport and live here forever? Nobody is going to believe that :D

Nobody?

Not so.

Singapore is near India, for a start ....

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby Strong Eagle » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 1:36 am

Wd40 wrote:Seriously, would you give up your Aussie passport and live here forever? Nobody is going to believe that :D


He's not talking about giving up his passport... he's asking questions about PR.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 8:33 am

I think squirrel is referring to the fact that, theoretically, PR is supposed to be a transitioning point leading to citizenship. Looking at it that way, I see even less reason for ICA to even consider it as they have already been naturalized as Australians and are contemplating giving it up (if the premises for PR is eventually citizenship). If I was ICA, I'd not give them the time of day, let alone PR as it looks like they are abusing every country they go to, and as noted, all Singapore is doing is making it cheaper for them to return to India as and when.

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby Wd40 » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 8:58 am

Yes, that is exactly what I meant, although I am not squirrel. :)


OP, Singapore is going to just like Dubai, for people like you. Getting a work permit will never be a problem and you can live here "permanently", just forget about PR.


If I was in OP's shoes, my strategy would be to keep the Aussie passport as a nice safe backup, so that my daughter can then choose to go there for cheap higher education and I would then move to Australia at that point. Meanwhile live in Singapore and save up on Aussie taxes.

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 9:26 am

I was actually replying to squirrel's post. ;-)

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby midlet2013 » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:23 am

Sadly, ICA is as sensitive as the other posters. People from west can get PR. But in ur case, they mite view it as a case where you are optimising Aus Citizenship and SG PR to benefit you as much as it can. Well everyone does that but it may backfire.

I actually studied here , then went out for 4 years and came back. Still managed PR. In 2014. So, its not like they hold a grudge against u just bcus u lived elsewhere.

However, I dont know how critical your job profile is for Singapore.

But then if I were you, I wont pay much heed to advice here and go ahead n apply. You wont feel as bad as Indians who get rejected in case you do rejected.

throwaway22 wrote:Long time member here but as you can tell I am using a throw away account for obvious reasons. So my wife, our daughter and I have lived here in Singapore for more than 6 years now.. We are originally from India but naturalized Australian citizens. Life here has been great so far and we see ourselves live here permanently so mulling on applying for PR

I work for a global company (not a financial org) looking after their Information Security function for the APMEA region. I make roughly 200k a year including bonus and sundries. My wife has the harder job of taking care of our daughter and me :) I know in the current climate our race will not work in our favor and us moving around countries does not help but we are willing to give it a go.

Just wanted to put this out there and see what everyone thinks? Any opinions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby the lynx » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:59 am

You can still try and apply. No one is stopping you.

But I don't understand your question/story. You mean you're prepared to give up your Australia citizenship in future, for Singapore citizenship?

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 1:04 pm

I rather doubt that, but I think that's why ICA would reject him. I think they just want to be closer to India for their return trips, but of course ICA is going to look at it as a PR "normally" will eventually take up citizenship (they hope). But the fact that he's already changed citizenships once before, I think they would just give him a miss, telling him he's welcome to stay here on his EP and long as the MOM will renew it.

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby Wd40 » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:54 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:I rather doubt that, but I think that's why ICA would reject him. I think they just want to be closer to India for their return trips, but of course ICA is going to look at it as a PR "normally" will eventually take up citizenship (they hope). But the fact that he's already changed citizenships once before, I think they would just give him a miss, telling him he's welcome to stay here on his EP and long as the MOM will renew it.


The distance to India is only the icing on the cake, its not the main factor. BTW, I just booked Tiger airways 3 tickets to Bangalore for total cost return fare $1070 for all 3. My EU colleague who sits besides me tells me that he alone also cannot get return fare below $1000 to his home. Best part though, is Changi Airport T2 has Ananda Bhavan, the 24hrs Indian restaurant in it. Money can buy a lot of things but the ability to have Idly vada late night before boarding the flight, is priceless. :)

BTW why is Mr Throwaway, so quite, or was he always a quiet long time member? :D

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby PNGMK » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:13 pm

OP - don't disclose Australian PR if possible to ICA. Black mark. Too easy to be mobile.
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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby ecureilx » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:34 pm

Wd40 wrote:The distance to India is only the icing on the cake, its not the main factor. BTW, I just booked Tiger airways 3 tickets to Bangalore for total cost return fare $1070 for all 3. My EU colleague who sits besides me tells me that he alone also cannot get return fare below $1000 to his home. Best part though, is Changi Airport T2 has Ananda Bhavan, the 24hrs Indian restaurant in it. Money can buy a lot of things but the ability to have Idly vada late night before boarding the flight, is priceless. :)


My point was not about the vegetarian food or price of ticket .. but how fast and travelling time - for you to get to India from SG vs flying from Australia... :)

Ps, having certain vegetarian food before a flight can make your neighbors bit uncomfortable .. ;) at times ... ;)

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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby Wd40 » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:45 pm

ecureilx wrote:
Wd40 wrote:The distance to India is only the icing on the cake, its not the main factor. BTW, I just booked Tiger airways 3 tickets to Bangalore for total cost return fare $1070 for all 3. My EU colleague who sits besides me tells me that he alone also cannot get return fare below $1000 to his home. Best part though, is Changi Airport T2 has Ananda Bhavan, the 24hrs Indian restaurant in it. Money can buy a lot of things but the ability to have Idly vada late night before boarding the flight, is priceless. :)


My point was not about the vegetarian food or price of ticket .. but how fast and travelling time - for you to get to India from SG vs flying from Australia... :)

Ps, having certain vegetarian food before a flight can make your neighbors bit uncomfortable .. ;) at times ... ;)








Not vegetarian, lah. Indian food. Actually, the Indian part is more important than the vegetarian part. I have see plenty on Indian meat eaters who came to Singapore and then couldn't stand the smell of food courts.



I know you meant time as well, but that too is one of the nice to have's, unless someone is going to India every couple of months. Most people I know go once a year and some twice a year in case of certain events.
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Re: PR Application- Indian Australian

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 14 Apr 2015 11:47 pm

PNGMK wrote:OP - don't disclose Australian PR if possible to ICA. Black mark. Too easy to be mobile.


He's not an Aussie PR, he's a naturalized Aussie Citizen! The key word being naturalized. ICA will jump right on that with a place of birth as India and Aussie Citizenship the jigs up as far as ICA is concerned, I reckon.


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