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PR Application - Chances/Odds
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Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
If you don't like the advice you're receiving, and if you were already planning to ignore such advice, why did you ask for it?
Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
Looking for some insight...! First PR application was in 2014 rejected within the first 3 months...
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2nd application - Jan 2016
Current Status - Pending
Nationality - Indian
Male - Single
Moved to Singapore in 2011
Profession - BIM Manager - 7k - EPass
Self published author
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You think I got a chance ?
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2nd application - Jan 2016
Current Status - Pending
Nationality - Indian
Male - Single
Moved to Singapore in 2011
Profession - BIM Manager - 7k - EPass
Self published author
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You think I got a chance ?
Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
I will quote our esteemed moderator SMS.k1983 wrote:Looking for some insight...! First PR application was in 2014 rejected within the first 3 months...
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2nd application - Jan 2016
Current Status - Pending
Nationality - Indian
Male - Single
Moved to Singapore in 2011
Profession - BIM Manager - 7k - EPass
Self published author
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You think I got a chance ?
"If you don't try you are guaranteed not to get PR"
However it probably unlikely all the same , but you never know , with a fair wind at your back.
Life is short, paddle harder!!
Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
Just wondering, statistically speaking .. from all applicants who came here and ask ..
how many of those who wait more than 1 year plus and get their PR approved, or everything is just random chance?
Pls don't shoot my stupid question =<
how many of those who wait more than 1 year plus and get their PR approved, or everything is just random chance?
Pls don't shoot my stupid question =<
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Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
It's not a stupid question, but it is one where the answer is "how long is a piece of string?" Because of the ebb & flow of economics, the small size of Singapore allows the government here to 'turn on a dime' depending on which way the wind is blowing. I remember 20 years ago the Phama Industries were going to be the next big "Hub", Then the Airtropolis, and the IT hub, and this hub and that hub. Goes like gangbusters for a year or two and then something new arrives on the horizon and off they go again on another tangent. Often leaving all kinds is detrius along the way (spent bodies who thought they were the doGs gift to the world and andwent and sold everything except their mother to get over here. Sadly, this is but another example of that and it's also why it's impossible to give you any sort of accurate percentages over a spread of a year, let alone a 10 years timeline.
All we do is listen to the stories, store them in our mental vaults and apply who we know, what we know and what we do and the various industries we are familiar with (various if you haven't noticed). and then give you our gut feel. Me? I'm pretty famous in my own little circle for bucking the trends even during interviews, I don't bother too much with the "rulebook" and depend a lot on intuition and gut feel. When I was a headhunter I rarely gave a client more then two CVs and normally only one. My closing rate was one of the best in the business but to be honest I stayed in my own industry expertice rather than trying to get into everything. I was a specialist in hard engineering sciences (particularly in the O&G, Heavy Construction/Civils/Marine environments). I still operate, as an HR Manager for the past 11 years, in much the same vein. My staying rate of those I hire is better than my bosses.
So, what I tell you guys here is made of a lot of data coupled with my gut feel. Not very professional, I grant you, but anybody who's done the research on this forum will note that my percentages more or less work here as well. How do I do it? I cannot begin to tell you as I don't really know either, other than the fact that it works and is pretty accurate in cutting through the BS.
You can ask WD-40 or Singaporeflyer, both have been here a long time and I think both will vouch for my uncanny accuracy.
All we do is listen to the stories, store them in our mental vaults and apply who we know, what we know and what we do and the various industries we are familiar with (various if you haven't noticed). and then give you our gut feel. Me? I'm pretty famous in my own little circle for bucking the trends even during interviews, I don't bother too much with the "rulebook" and depend a lot on intuition and gut feel. When I was a headhunter I rarely gave a client more then two CVs and normally only one. My closing rate was one of the best in the business but to be honest I stayed in my own industry expertice rather than trying to get into everything. I was a specialist in hard engineering sciences (particularly in the O&G, Heavy Construction/Civils/Marine environments). I still operate, as an HR Manager for the past 11 years, in much the same vein. My staying rate of those I hire is better than my bosses.
So, what I tell you guys here is made of a lot of data coupled with my gut feel. Not very professional, I grant you, but anybody who's done the research on this forum will note that my percentages more or less work here as well. How do I do it? I cannot begin to tell you as I don't really know either, other than the fact that it works and is pretty accurate in cutting through the BS.
You can ask WD-40 or Singaporeflyer, both have been here a long time and I think both will vouch for my uncanny accuracy.
SOME PEOPLE TRY TO TURN BACK THEIR ODOMETERS. NOT ME. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHY I LOOK THIS WAY. I'VE TRAVELED A LONG WAY, AND SOME OF THE ROADS WEREN'T PAVED. ~ Will Rogers
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Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
Hi all, just to update my status here. I got my PR Approval within 6 months (which nearly 6 mths). Good luck to those who are applying! Cheers*andrew0209 wrote:Hi all,
Kindly seek for your advice of the chance to get PR approval.
26, Degree holder (1st class), EP (working 1 year +), annual income about $33,000
Malaysian Chinese, Local listed manufacturing company.
Application submitted since 20 Feb 2016 but now still pending. Does it mean no hope already?![]()





Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
andrew0209 wrote:Hi all, just to update my status here. I got my PR Approval within 6 months (which nearly 6 mths). Good luck to those who are applying! Cheers*andrew0209 wrote:Hi all,
Kindly seek for your advice of the chance to get PR approval.
26, Degree holder (1st class), EP (working 1 year +), annual income about $33,000
Malaysian Chinese, Local listed manufacturing company.
Application submitted since 20 Feb 2016 but now still pending. Does it mean no hope already?![]()
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Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
+1. I do accept what SMS has said heresundaymorningstaple wrote: You can ask WD-40 or Singaporeflyer, both have been here a long time and I think both will vouch for my uncanny accuracy.

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Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
hi all,
seeking your advice regarding PR chances.
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In Singapore since 2009.
Indian, working in as Chemical Engineer in mulitnational company for 7 years(EP).
Annual income around 120K. Wife working as well. Have a kid.
PR rejected 3 times. Would be applying again in September this year.
Unable to figure out the reason for rejections.
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Any insight would be helpful.
Thanks
seeking your advice regarding PR chances.
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In Singapore since 2009.
Indian, working in as Chemical Engineer in mulitnational company for 7 years(EP).
Annual income around 120K. Wife working as well. Have a kid.
PR rejected 3 times. Would be applying again in September this year.
Unable to figure out the reason for rejections.
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Any insight would be helpful.
Thanks

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Rumour says, if you change your race to something else, you may succeedsgsince2009 wrote: In Singapore since 2009.
Indian, working in as Chemical Engineer in mulitnational company for 7 years(EP).
Annual income around 120K. Wife working as well. Have a kid.
PR rejected 3 times. Would be applying again in September this year.
Unable to figure out the reason for rejections.
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Any insight would be helpful.
Thanks

Btw. Where have you been hiding?
You didn't know that the last 7 years or so, PR for Indians has been reduced ?
You still have the 5.039% chance, if you apply again.
Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
Actually, since you are a chemical engineer, you have better chances inspite of race, compared to the IT/Banking crowd.
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Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
+1. But since he has already had 3 rejections, it will be better for him to reapply after he has some visible changes in his application - like career growth, Salary, etcWd40 wrote:Actually, since you are a chemical engineer, you have better chances inspite of race, compared to the IT/Banking crowd.
Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
Hi, just to update and provide future applicants some references.cerberus wrote:Hi, planning to submit my application on August, here's my profile:
Male, 25, Chinese Malaysian
2010 - 2013 Diploma from local Poly
2013 - 2016 Degree from local U
Current- Employment Pass in Engineering, 3k+ per month.
Will submit around early August, so will only have 2 months of payslip to submit. Understand that it is advisable to wait for 6 months before applying but since the application process is taking so long, so I'm thinking maybe I should just apply first anyways, what do you think my chances are? Thanks!
Started working since June 2016, submitted my application mid December 2016, and got it approved around early August 2017. Cheers.
Re: PR Application - Chances/Odds
Congratscerberus wrote: Hi, just to update and provide future applicants some references.
Started working since June 2016, submitted my application mid December 2016, and got it approved around early August 2017. Cheers.
So long for a Malaysian applicant!
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