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PR Application Query

Post by indianboy » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:11 pm

Hi,

I have a very basic question to ask - it might sound a bit silly as well. But since it's regarding my PR application, I just want to ensure I am clear. I've booked my slot for April '15 (next month) and currently in the process of collecting all relevant documents and filling out the application form. A few years back, I had to pay a 300$ fine for throwing a cigarette butt not in the trash bin. Is this something I should declare in the form? Not quite sure. Appreciate some advise

Thanks.

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Post by rajagainstthemachine » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:18 pm

Is there a question on the PR form that says did you get fined anywhere in Singapore or something to that effect?
If not don't worry about it. If yes then you'll have to state it. In either case thats not the drawback, It's sadly your race (which I am assuming is Indian based on your user name).
To get there early is on time and showing up on time is late

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Re: PR Application Query

Post by the lynx » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 3:26 pm

If I remember correctly, the form asks specifically if you are convicted in Singapore for any crime. Littering is not the basis for conviction (it was liable to fine only), so if your application gets rejected, I'd hardly think that's the cause.

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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 5:00 pm

the lynx wrote:If I remember correctly, the form asks specifically if you are convicted in Singapore for any crime. Littering is not the basis for conviction (it was liable to fine only), so if your application gets rejected, I'd hardly think that's the cause.
But a colleague was asked why he didn't mention his previous Jay walking fine...

I know it's debatable, but for me it's better to put a note on the form than be accused for lying to a civil servant :)

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Post by x9200 » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 8:58 pm

ecureilx wrote:
the lynx wrote:If I remember correctly, the form asks specifically if you are convicted in Singapore for any crime. Littering is not the basis for conviction (it was liable to fine only), so if your application gets rejected, I'd hardly think that's the cause.
But a colleague was asked why he didn't mention his previous Jay walking fine...

I know it's debatable, but for me it's better to put a note on the form than be accused for lying to a civil servant :)
He was asked this at what point?

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Post by ecureilx » Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:17 pm

x9200 wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
the lynx wrote:If I remember correctly, the form asks specifically if you are convicted in Singapore for any crime. Littering is not the basis for conviction (it was liable to fine only), so if your application gets rejected, I'd hardly think that's the cause.
But a colleague was asked why he didn't mention his previous Jay walking fine...

I know it's debatable, but for me it's better to put a note on the form than be accused for lying to a civil servant :)
He was asked this at what point?
I recall, it was when he was submitting the form.

not sure if the fine by Auxiliary police or Actual police makes a difference !!

Let me check with him, tomorrow !!

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Re: PR Application Query

Post by indianboy » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:51 am

Hi,

The question asks for crime or offense. Would this be considered an offense, if not a crime? It came under the NEA though

@ecureilx - did you have a chance to check with your colleague?

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Re: PR Application Query

Post by komatineni » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 3:05 pm

I dont believe 'fines' are tracked centrally. I can certainly say that ICA sytems are integrated with MHA but dont think with NEA or other agencies.
still curious to know what happened to your friend.

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Re: PR Application Query

Post by Sunrisesingapore » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 8:18 pm

This is what the Environmental Public Health Act says:

17.
—(1) No person shall —
(a) deposit, drop, place or throw any dust, dirt, paper, ash, carcase, refuse, box, barrel, bale or any other article or thing in any public place;
(b) keep or leave any article or thing in any place where it or particles therefrom have passed or are likely to pass into any public place;
(c) dry any article of food or any other article or thing in any public place;
(d) place, scatter, spill or throw any blood, brine, noxious liquid, swill or any other offensive or filthy matter of any kind in such manner as to run or fall into any public place;
(e) beat, clean, shake, sieve or otherwise agitate any ash, hair, feathers, lime, sand, waste paper or other substance in such manner that it is carried or likely to be carried by the wind to any public place;
(f) throw or leave behind any bottle, can, food container, food wrapper, glass, particles of food or any other article or thing in any public place;
(g) spit any substance or expel mucus from the nose upon or onto any street or any public place; or
(h) discard or abandon in any public place any motor vehicle whose registration has been cancelled under section 27 of the Road Traffic Act (Cap. 276), any furniture or any other bulky article.

(2) No person shall drop, deposit or throw any refuse or any other matter or thing in any channel, drain, lake, reservoir, river, stream or watercourse or upon the bank of any of the same or in any part of the sea abutting on the foreshore.

(3) Any person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2) shall be guilty of an offence.


..........so I guess if you contravened section 17(1)(a), then yes - section (3) states that you committed an offence. Accordingly, if the form asks you to disclose your "offences" - then you should do so.

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Re: PR Application Query

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Tue, 21 Apr 2015 9:36 pm

I mean, after all, Singapore has enough litter-throwing citizens already! They damned sure don't need to give Permanent Residency to more known and convicted anti-social types. :-k

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Re: PR Application Query

Post by Dhiman » Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:38 pm

Hi Indianboy, how did your application go? I am in a similar situation. Please do let us know :(

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