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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby Katongirl » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 6:25 am

ecureilx wrote:
Katongirl wrote:.. chinaman boss....
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And I recall you are a returning SGn.



I wasn't born in Singapore but was living there for some time and thus naturalized and have family members there. As much as that, truth be told I'm not "die-die must go back".

As for the word "chinaman boss"... it means a local (usually Chinese Singaporean) boss that wants to pay little yet work you hard... you know like that sugar cane machine in the hawker stalls.

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby ecureilx » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 9:12 am

Katongirl wrote:As for the word "chinaman boss"... it means a local (usually Chinese Singaporean) boss that wants to pay little yet work you hard... you know like that sugar cane machine in the hawker stalls.


I see ..

FYI, most if not all Chinese in Singapore, and elsewhere, except maybe PRCs, will be severely offended to be called China Man .. [-X

Though for Westerners it may seem a normal word .. to call Chinese guy- China Man ! :-k

Just sayin ..

:cry: :cry:

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby Katongirl » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 9:23 am

Thanks for pointing that out, ecureilx.

I'm Chinese and we've used this word in my family/friends all along... BUT if there's anyone's offended by it, please accept my apology in advance.

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby ecureilx » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 9:31 am

Katongirl wrote:Thanks for pointing that out, ecureilx.

I'm Chinese and we've used this word in my family/friends all along... BUT if there's anyone's offended by it, please accept my apology in advance.


Those who lived in the west would least be offended I guess :) :)

don't let what I wrote spoil your day anyway :)

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 9:49 am

Hey Squirrel, I know it's Friday, sooooo......

First award of the day goes to you! :mrgreen:

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby ecureilx » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:00 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Hey Squirrel, I know it's Friday, sooooo......

First award of the day goes to you! :mrgreen:

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Am I that lucky ?? :P :P Seriously?? :D

Plagiarised from the internet ..

Chinaman is a contentious English language term that denotes a Chinese man or person, or as a Chinese national, or, in some cases, an indiscriminate term for a person native to geographical East Asia or of perceived East Asian race.

Although the term has no negative connotations in older dictionaries,and the usage of such parallel compound terms as Englishman, Frenchman and Irishman remain unobjectionable the term Chinaman is noted as offensive by modern dictionaries. Its derogatory connotations evolved from its use in pejorative contexts regarding the Chinese and other Asians. While usage of the term Chinaman is nowadays strongly discouraged by Asian American organizations, the term has been used by English speakers of Chinese descent and others, without offensive intent, and has also been used as a self-referential archetype by authors and artists of Asian descent
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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby Wd40 » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:05 am

I thought China man in Singapore is used to refer to PRCs. When I read KG's post, I thought she was referring to a PRC boss.

For example:

http://therealsingapore.com/content/dea ... ale-toilet

Note the usage:

I know he is a China man and not a Singaporean because he speak very loudly and have a strong curly tongue accent


Singaporean Chinese are definitely going to get offended by you KG :P

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby Barnsley » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:46 am

I thought a "chinaman" was the ball bowled by a left arm wrist spinner in cricket....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-arm_unorthodox_spin

I had no idea it was a derogatory term as how else would you describe a man from China? :o :o
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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby therat » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:55 am

If address a Chinese male as chinaman.

For Taiwanese, they will said they from Taiwan not China.

For Malaysia Chinese, they will reply we are Malaysia Chinese, we from Malaysia not China

For Singapore Chinese, they will reply.
We are Singaporean not ah tong.

Add on
Even Hong Kong Chinese will reply, they are Hong Kong people, not China people.
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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby bgd » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 10:56 am

Barnsley wrote:
I had no idea it was a derogatory term as how else would you describe a man from China? :o :o


Me either. I hear the term China People used a lot locally to describe PRCs. Should I assume that is also derogatory? At least it isn't sexist. :wink:

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby therat » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:01 am

It is okay to call man from China as chinaman.

But not all Chinese man from China.

May be our grandparents from China but that does not make us citizens of China.
We are Chinese, yes
Citizen of China. Hell no.

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby nakatago » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:08 am

bgd wrote:
Barnsley wrote:
I had no idea it was a derogatory term as how else would you describe a man from China? :o :o


Me either. I hear the term China People used a lot locally to describe PRCs. Should I assume that is also derogatory? At least it isn't sexist. :wink:


I just checked my calendar; it says "2015" so I guess oriental is out of the question.

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby the lynx » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 11:11 am

Mainland Chinese, no?

Like how others are referred as Singaporean Chinese, Malaysian Chinese, Taiwanese, Hong Kongers, ABC, BBC, CBC etc.

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby Katongirl » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 3:32 pm

It's interesting how this conversation has evolved. Not sure where the author of that quote is from but there's a chance people from different places or of Chinese or non-Chinese descendant use it in different context. I may have critiqued that particular boss' style but it was not derogatory toward him. He was just not the style of boss I like or could learn a lot from.

Usually when it's spelt with a small 'c' and in one word, it's by no means referring to the country or offending the Chinese people. Just like porcelain that people call it fine china. True it may have originated from China in the past, but fine bone china is made in many other countries too.

Right, happy to close this can of worms with a dose of goodwill!

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Re: What's the job market like?

Postby Wd40 » Fri, 13 Mar 2015 6:31 pm

Barnsley wrote:I thought a "chinaman" was the ball bowled by a left arm wrist spinner in cricket....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-arm_unorthodox_spin

I had no idea it was a derogatory term as how else would you describe a man from China? :o :o




Paul Adams comes to mind. What a funny action he had :).



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