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Seeking feedback on PR chances

Postby tamil_tam » Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:07 pm

We are naturalized US citizens of Indian origin and have 2 young sons 4 and 1. We have been in Singapore for 2 yrs and would like to settle down here for the long term. I am in the technology space in a business role and my wife is in the basic sciences but not working presently. We are in mid 30s with base salary 250k SGD (myself P1 and others DP)

I have been observing this forum for a while and I get the Indian race issue. My question is : Is it worth applying this year for the full family to see what the response is from ICA or should I wait for a few years to demonstrate the commitment. Obviously the latter option puts us in uncertainty so would prefer to go with applying sooner. Would like to understand if applying too soon and getting a reject will diminish any slim chances we may have when applying in the future.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 20 Feb 2015 1:27 am

I reckon, in your case, it is probably a total waste of time. Do you think the ICA here are completely clueless? You have already changed citizenship once and now that the Indian Government has made it rather easy to regain your native citizenship, you don't really think Singapore is going to waste their time do you? Especially, knowing you've changed citizenship once already. Unless you have a thick hide, I'd say give it a miss. Just my 2cents worth.

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Re: Seeking feedback on PR chances

Postby tamil_tam » Fri, 20 Feb 2015 6:09 pm

Thanks SMS, I admire your dedication in posting replies, its helpful given you have observed probably a lot of posts here. What you mentioned is what I was expecting but I am not certain it is as simple as that, see Jiten's (facebook) response below about a potentially similar such case. However, I will wait for some more time before applying so I can gather better understanding. If anyone else has been in this situation, please let me know.

ps> Btw, SMS, not sure what you mean by easy to regain Indian citizenship. If you are talking about recent announcement by Modi govt, it does not affect me (impacts 2nd generation Indians) and its not about citizenship. So you are probably mistaking something. Anyways, I don't think its relevant here.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Fri, 20 Feb 2015 7:11 pm

tamil_tam wrote:ps> Btw, SMS, not sure what you mean by easy to regain Indian citizenship. If you are talking about recent announcement by Modi govt, it does not affect me (impacts 2nd generation Indians) and its not about citizenship. So you are probably mistaking something. Anyways, I don't think its relevant here.


I was referring to the PIO card, not the recently offered OCI card. It's possible you already have the PIO card and probably ICA will assume the same thing as it is a normal (but not obligatory) procedure for the diaspora to do this, especially those coming from countries like the UK and the US which either allow or do not specifically disallow dual citizenship. The PIO would/could apply directly to you and your immediate family including children born abroad. All you have to do is be resident in India for 7 years to apply for citizenship there again. If I know about this, I'm sure the ICA also know about this and the fact that you are coming from a dual citizenship allowable country (which by the way, do you still hold your Indian citizenship, or did you renounce upon gaining US citiznship?)

http://www.immihelp.com/nri/pio-vs-oci.html

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Re: Seeking feedback on PR chances

Postby tamil_tam » Sat, 21 Feb 2015 5:11 pm

>>> If I know about this, I'm sure the ICA also know about this and the fact that you are coming from a dual citizenship allowable country (which by the way, do you still hold your Indian citizenship, or did you renounce upon gaining US citiznship?)

India does not allow dual citizenship so what others offer does not matter. You *have* to renounce Indian citizenship before taking a different one. Same applies if you want to become Indian citizen again.

PIO and OCI have been around for a long time without much change to the rules till the Modi Govt stepped in. PIO or OCI (and now will be merged to just OCI) are essentially 15 years or life long visa for 2/+ generation or 1st generation Indians respectively to visit or work . They come with no voting right and disallow owning farm land.

Again not relevant to ICA's decision in my opinion for the matter above but thought would clarify.

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Re: Seeking feedback on PR chances

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 21 Feb 2015 7:21 pm

tamil_tam wrote:Again not relevant to ICA's decision in my opinion for the matter above but thought would clarify.


Sadly, it's not your opinion on ICA thoughts that matter, but ICA actual thoughts. I wish you luck though.


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