"fair employment issue" may be that they failed to advertise the position for two weeks on the government job forum before finding that they cannot find locals to do the job, and offering it to you. That would be the first thing to check.not_an_expat wrote:I am a fresh graduate from National University of Singapore. I am offered a sales position at a MNC in the healthcare industry. The company told me that my EP application is rejected, reason given is regarding the fair employment issue. HR never mention details, dont think is quota issue as I have met most employees in similar positions or management in the company during the interview (some 8 hours assessment in a day to let you familiarise with the people/culture/job scope etc.) and they are Singaporeans.
Nationality: Malaysian
Years in Singapore: 4.5 years (extended by .5 year because NUS sent me overseas for a prestigious entrepreneurship program for a year)
Degree: NUS, Electrical Engineering
Base salary: S$2.8k
Other salary components: 1.3k travelling expenses + 17% of CPF contribution returned to me in cash since I am foreigner + great commissions
I know the base salary is lower than 3.3k but all my foreign friends graduated from NUS last year(2014) who are paid less than that amount got their EP approved. And it is pretty common that sales position's salary is lower than those with fixed income. I have rejected other job offers in engineering field with fixed monthly salary that ranges from 3k to 3.3k.
This company has appealed the EP application decision for me. From your experience, how long does it takes to hear from MOM again? and what happens if I got rejected for the appeal? Should I look for another job?
I know someone in the same situation. Her EP was rejected because of the "fair employment issue". The company admitted they hadn't advertised the role on the job forum first. In her case there was no appeal so she is looking elsewhere.AngMoG wrote:
"fair employment issue" may be that they failed to advertise the position for two weeks on the government job forum before finding that they cannot find locals to do the job, and offering it to you. That would be the first thing to check.
Wd40 wrote:Dude, why do you want to get into "Sales for a healthcare industry" when you did Electrical Engineering from NUS? There are just too many Singaporeans who can do stuff like marketing and sales.
The privilege of doing work unrelated to the qualification evaporated ever since a lot of locals started to complain ..midlet2013 wrote:How many people in this world and specifically in Singapore, have the choice to get the job they like ?
If he lost interest and just wanted to move to other areas and ditch engineering, then I guess MOM has a point. But if this is the only reasonable option he has to begin with, then its not really his fault.
Sadly, as foreigners with no experience, people should realize that one has to do a bit of shitty work before you can pick n choose.
Wd40 wrote:Dude, why do you want to get into "Sales for a healthcare industry" when you did Electrical Engineering from NUS? There are just too many Singaporeans who can do stuff like marketing and sales.
Surely you jest!Wd40 wrote:Graduating from NUS, one of the top ranking universities in the world has to mean something?
JR8 wrote:
According to the Straits Times?
[apols: I didn't read the linked article. But let's face it, outside of Asia almost no one has heard of NUS. You might also ask, how many of SGs leaders did their tertiary education here?]
Oh dear, NUS is not even in the top-50 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QS_World_U ... y_Rankings , though NTU is there at no.39
zzm9980 wrote: Uhm, it's number 22 in the only list on that page. Same list has NTU at 39.
Wd40 wrote:Graduating from NUS, one of the top ranking universities in the world has to mean something? Imagine someone from IIT with BTech trying for sales job. If not Singapore, he should try elsewhere so as to not screw his career. Very few people can actually make a come back once they stray away into a different field.
Its a different matter if its a recession or something, like in 2001 after the dot com bust lots of techies lost their jobs and they had to take up jobs like call centres and tech support, but when the economy was back, some of them managed to switch back into tech, especially those from good universities and the bright ones. But many of the average ones didn't manage to do that, but atleast they have an excuse. Just like lot of wannabe Investment bankers who finished their MBA in 2008-2009 had to forgo their dreams. But now the economy is good, if someone is doing degree in electrical engineering from NUS and not able to secure a job in a related field, then something is very wrong.
EDIT: I just read again, OP has clearly mentioned that he has rejected Engineering jobs that pay way higher.
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