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PR Advice

Postby v1v2 » Thu, 05 Feb 2015 10:56 am

I am 42 year old Indian on PEP since 2010. PR rejected for self, spouse, family and 2 sons ( now 14 and 10 years of age ). I had applied for PR in 2012 and got rejection in 2013 after 11 months. Sons study in International School. My PEP ends in June 2015. I work for a foreign bank. salary bet 110K-120K PA. What are the chances of my PR approval, in case I apply again for whole family ?

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Re: PR Advice

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Thu, 05 Feb 2015 11:12 am

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Re: PR Advice

Postby bgd » Thu, 05 Feb 2015 12:49 pm

Has anything changed since your last application, i.e. some improvement in circumstances? If not then I doubt things will change if you reapply.

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Postby nakatago » Thu, 05 Feb 2015 1:47 pm

bgd wrote:Has anything changed since your last application, i.e. some improvement in circumstances? If not then I doubt things will change if you reapply.


He's pretty up there; I bet it's because he's a flight risk. A highly paid banker? That leads the pack in terms of mobility.

Would relocate to other countries at the drop of a dollar bill.

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Postby bgd » Thu, 05 Feb 2015 3:16 pm

nakatago wrote:
bgd wrote:Has anything changed since your last application, i.e. some improvement in circumstances? If not then I doubt things will change if you reapply.


He's pretty up there; I bet it's because he's a flight risk. A highly paid banker? That leads the pack in terms of mobility.

Would relocate to other countries at the drop of a dollar bill.


That is a good point. Personally I've never understood why anyone would apply for a PR unless they really wanted to settle in Sg, or at the least stay for the for the long term. Any benefits that used to exist appear to have gone now.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby martincymru » Fri, 06 Feb 2015 9:12 am

bgd wrote:
nakatago wrote:
bgd wrote:Has anything changed since your last application, i.e. some improvement in circumstances? If not then I doubt things will change if you reapply.


He's pretty up there; I bet it's because he's a flight risk. A highly paid banker? That leads the pack in terms of mobility.

Would relocate to other countries at the drop of a dollar bill.


That is a good point. Personally I've never understood why anyone would apply for a PR unless they really wanted to settle in Sg, or at the least stay for the for the long term. Any benefits that used to exist appear to have gone now.


If PR then you can set up a business. On EP cannot. That's one benefit. There are other benefits too.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby Wd40 » Sat, 07 Feb 2015 7:47 am

bgd wrote:
nakatago wrote:
bgd wrote:Has anything changed since your last application, i.e. some improvement in circumstances? If not then I doubt things will change if you reapply.


He's pretty up there; I bet it's because he's a flight risk. A highly paid banker? That leads the pack in terms of mobility.

Would relocate to other countries at the drop of a dollar bill.


That is a good point. Personally I've never understood why anyone would apply for a PR unless they really wanted to settle in Sg, or at the least stay for the for the long term. Any benefits that used to exist appear to have gone now.


To buy a condo with 5% ABSD instead of 15%? Especially the OP's profile kind of people who prolly oredy live in a condo and can easily buy it and then save money on rental as well. Also with the Jobs bank and stuff, PR lets you change jobs easily or atleast thats the perception.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 07 Feb 2015 9:52 am

Jobs Bank cannot openly advertise for PR's, only Citizens.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby Wd40 » Sat, 07 Feb 2015 10:07 am

Right. But you can straight away hire a citizen or PR by advertising on normal job sites. You need to advertise on the jobsbank only if you eventually want to hire a foreigner on EP.

So another way of looking at it, those companies/sectors that can hire SCs/PRs easily, won't even go to the jobsbank and those companies that advertise on jobsbank are more likely to hire foreigners, after completing the formality.
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Re: PR Advice

Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:16 am

Depends on the Industry. We advertise always on JobsBank and don't want, nor have quotas for any more foreigners (in fact I'm currently 10 over quota with S pass holders and cannot hire enough locals to cover them, so when their renewals come up, I'm going to lose them. Sucks.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby Wd40 » Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:46 pm

sundaymorningstaple wrote:Depends on the Industry. We advertise always on JobsBank and don't want, nor have quotas for any more foreigners (in fact I'm currently 10 over quota with S pass holders and cannot hire enough locals to cover them, so when their renewals come up, I'm going to lose them. Sucks.


Interesting. How has your experience been in terms of getting locals using jobsbank v/s traditional means? My impression was the Jobsbank is means for companies to show evidence to the MoM that they are not getting enough locals and not really their main hiring source, I could be wrong though. I would be interested to know how many companies who hire only Singaporeans/PRs use the Jobsbank as their main source and also locals who are looking for jobs, how many of them use the jobsbank to search for jobs instead of Jobstreet and monster etc

The search engine of the jobsbank is pathetic. Try searching some popular skill like "Java" and you will notice that the results are only those where the title has the word Java in it and it doesn't allow you to do a search within the job description. So if the jobs title was just software engineer, you will never get it in the results.

https://www.jobsbank.gov.sg/ICMSPortal/ ... dSearch.do

The best way to apply for a job on jobsbank is to actually search for the job on a 3rd party search engine like Indeed.

May be the jobsbank was developed by local developers, as using foreigners to develop it would have been ironic :)

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Re: PR Advice

Postby JR8 » Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:53 pm

I tried going to Jobsbank just now, and the page-request returned 'The servers certificate chain is incomplete... ', and it won't load.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby v1v2 » Tue, 10 Feb 2015 11:51 pm

Hi, I was out of country on business and couldn't reply. Thanks for your replies. I have lived and worked in the US and Japan with MNC banks and got an opportunity to work in Singapore 5 years ago. I was very happy with the cultural aspects and hence wanted to settle down in SG - temples, literary activities, friendly people etc.
On the professional front, in the last 3 years, salary increased 25%, got promoted one notch up. On the personal front, I am releasing a book on literature next month ( not that it might help but just stating a fact ).
That is my story.

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Re: PR Advice

Postby nakatago » Wed, 11 Feb 2015 6:44 am

v1v2 wrote:Hi, I was out of country on business and couldn't reply. Thanks for your replies. I have lived and worked in the US and Japan with MNC banks and got an opportunity to work in Singapore 5 years ago. I was very happy with the cultural aspects and hence wanted to settle down in SG - temples, literary activities, friendly people etc.
On the professional front, in the last 3 years, salary increased 25%, got promoted one notch up. On the personal front, I am releasing a book on literature next month ( not that it might help but just stating a fact ).
That is my story.



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Re: PR Advice

Postby Wd40 » Wed, 11 Feb 2015 8:46 am

v1v2 wrote:Hi, I was out of country on business and couldn't reply. Thanks for your replies. I have lived and worked in the US and Japan with MNC banks and got an opportunity to work in Singapore 5 years ago. I was very happy with the cultural aspects and hence wanted to settle down in SG - temples, literary activities, friendly people etc.
On the professional front, in the last 3 years, salary increased 25%, got promoted one notch up. On the personal front, I am releasing a book on literature next month ( not that it might help but just stating a fact ).
That is my story.


So you liked Singapore more than US and Japan. Interesting.


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