PR Application Form

[GEOS]

Hi Friends,

Good Afternoon,

I would like to check with you whether it is compulsory to fill up the PR application form in "Handwritten" method. Or can we fill up the details using Acrobat editor ?.

I think editing with Acrobat will be more legible, neat and can accommodate more details.

Your valuable suggestions and experiences would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
GEOS

[sundaymorningstaple]

Very difficult to overrun the boxes (if necessary) when using acrobat. So, you are better off doing it manually as per the way they prefer to have it done. If they wanted it done by computer they would give you a fill-able pdf form to use. They are capable of doing that. So, I'd advise using what they provide in the method provided.

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[GEOS]

Thanks sundaymorningstaple for your valuable suggestion. I will fill up the form manually.

I would like to share my details with forum to have suggestion from respected members who are familiar with similar cases.

I'm an indian national aged 45 ,living in Singapore since Aug 2011 with family (Wife and 2 kids , son aged 11 years)

I am working in a Japanese International company engaged in Oil & Gas engineering, procurement and construction services. (Employment pass P1)

My current position : Project Control Manager (17 years’ experience in the same sector worked in Europe, Middle East, South America and Russia )

Salary : SGD 8800 per month + 5 month salary as bonus + AWS
Upon completion of 1 year in Aug 2012, I had applied for PR and it got rejected.

Again I am planning to apply after 3.5 years from my date of arrival in Singapore. Please let me know the chances of getting PR.

I got an appointment with ICA - 2nd week of Jan 2015 .

Thanks
GEOS

[sundaymorningstaple]

My best friend is a planning/scheduling engineer for a Japanese company currently on a project in Indonesia (for over 2 years with 1+ more years to go). He and his Indonesian wife were PR's in Singapore as he's been working in the region for over 20 years (Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia a number of times in each country). He recently lost his PR due to his current contract in Indonesia (not in Singapore the last two years of his REP at the time. He owns a condo here, but he's renting it out and paying offshore tax rates on it.

What I'm trying to say is as you are a Project Controls Manager, you are also going to follow the O&G construction industries as well. The ICA knows this is the case for all in the O&G EPC industry. Therefore, the odds are definitely not in your favour as they know you will be going on to other areas when this project is completed. (your job history already proves this to them). Therefore, there is nothing to behoove them to give you PR as it appears that it will be a temporary affair till the next contract comes along. This is not what they are looking for in a "Permanent Resident". Therefore it's doubtful that you will be successful.

However, don't let that be a reason to stop you from re-applying. The worst they can do is tell you you are welcome to stay on your current EP. As long as you have thick skin, and multiple rejections don't bother you, you should be okay. Who knows, you just might win the lottery. Odds are stacked against you, but somebody eventually wins the lottery, don't they.

I spent 20 years in Oil Field Construction myself but retired from that about 20 years ago when I was about your age (a couple of years older). I left just because of the time away from home, so changed jobs, took a permanent position in Singapore and eventually got PR. (been here over 30 years now). Good Luck.

[GEOS]

Thanks again sundaymorningstaple for the detailed reply. Much appreciated your time and good heart to expalin the facts in detail. What you have written is absolutely right.

Let me clarify that my current employment is no more by project by project contarct. This is a permanent post in Singapore and I have stopped my oversaes assignments and no more travelling since 2011. Thats why I moved from UK based company(FW) to this new company. Travelling with kids for overseas assignments is affecting their education even though I am monetarily benefited. Not running for assignment uplift money and benefits anymore, but to settle in Sinagpore for the rest of my life.

But as you said, ICA authoritiy may think that I am an "opportunist" just to grab PR for the time being to enjoy Singapore facilities and then move to another country. In actual fact as I said earlier, enough travelled, now it is the time to stay in Singapore for kid's future. But how can I explain to them that my plan is to stay in Singapore permanently ?

Also I am planning to send my son for NS not only beacuse of the requirement , but I believe that this will help him developing his personality and for a disciplined life.

Thanks dear for your time and let us hope for the best. May be I am lucky... or my kids are lucky

Regards
GEOS

[sundaymorningstaple]

GEOS, for the record (and it's been stated elsewhere on this forum a number of times over the 10 years I've been on this board), When I left the offshore oil construction industry, I left it for something only very remotely related. I was rejected, appealed and and three years later I re-applied and was finally approved. But for the three years I worked for a totally non-O&G company to try to distance myself from there. It didn't work the first time nor did the appeal, but after another three years I was lucky. (by that time my children were both in School (one of each gender - both born in Singapore). My son (my youngest) is now 25 and finished his NS about 1.5 years ago. You are like me in that respect (My son was going to do some form of military service one way or the other - I preferred Singapore as he will still learn what he needs to learn but virtually no chance of getting his arse blown away like he would have had he did his military service in the US (I'm a Nam Vet and was discharged from active duty in July '68). Of course, there is no more "draft" in the US except in a mothballed state. So I decided to stay here and he couldn't get out of it. Didn't do him any harm at all.

I hope it all works out for you, but you might have to put it on hold for a few years in order to look "settled" here. If your initials of your previous employer are what I think they are, my friend also worked for them years ago on a project here in Singapore when their local office was still located in the Whitehouse beside the TJP MRT station. I worked across on the other side of the station in the IP building.

[ecureilx]

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I hope it all works out for you, but you might have to put it on hold for a few years in order to look "settled" here. If your initials of your previous employer are what I think they are, my friend also worked for them years ago on a project here in Singapore when their local office was still located in the Whitehouse beside the TJP MRT station. I worked across on the other side of the station in the IP building.

Me too did a stint in white house