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'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby JR8 » Sat, 08 Nov 2014 5:32 pm

Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy
By Dr. Chee Soon Juan
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/05/opini ... index.html
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I found it a thought provoking read.
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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby Wd40 » Sat, 08 Nov 2014 5:43 pm

Ah! Look at who the author is:

Dr. Chee Soon Juan is the secretary-general of the Singapore Democratic Party


It sounded just like a refined version of a TRE article, which made me curious ;)

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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby JR8 » Sat, 08 Nov 2014 6:23 pm

I knows who he is, I was more interested in what his thoughts are.
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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby Wd40 » Sun, 09 Nov 2014 8:45 am

Lee Kuan Yew, its first prime minister and architect of the country's one-party rule, said, in a stunning admission, that "without [foreigners], the jobs will not be there to begin with."


Whats so stunning about this? Isn't this obvious, that Singapore's prosperity is directly linked with foreigners? Its only people like him that get stunned.

Worst part is its not even a balanced view. This article has been written to an international audience, probably many of them dont know much about SG, so he needs to highlight the positives as well along with the negatives. Instead he has written it exactly like he would write it in TRE.

So, ironically, like he has mentioned in the article, this whole article is a "page of self interest"

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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby JR8 » Sun, 09 Nov 2014 11:54 am

Wd40 wrote:
Lee Kuan Yew, its first prime minister and architect of the country's one-party rule, said, in a stunning admission, that "without [foreigners], the jobs will not be there to begin with."

Whats so stunning about this? Isn't this obvious, that Singapore's prosperity is directly linked with foreigners? Its only people like him that get stunned.


That he said it at all. Because a reader might infer that he [LKY] is stating that making SG self-reliant has not yet come to fruition. I.e. that's why there is still a need for 'FT'. Politicians don't usually say things like that of their own historic plans.

Wd40 wrote:Worst part is its not even a balanced view. This article has been written to an international audience, probably many of them dont know much about SG, so he needs to highlight the positives as well along with the negatives. Instead he has written it exactly like he would write it in TRE.


Huh? He's an opposition politician, his role/function is to oppose the government: His job is not to celebrate the government's successes.

p.s. Over in the UK (GB) it is essentially two-party politics, Labour and the Tories. When one is in power the other's job is to attack their opponents policies and record. It is not the job of the opposition to float any alternatives (though they might choose to), or even publish a manifesto, until just before an election. The act of opposition is the primary job of the opposition. Maybe it doesn't work like that in other parliaments, but the SG one was directly modelled on Westminster :)
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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby FreeSpiritRunner » Mon, 29 Dec 2014 8:38 am

A really good article by Limpeh:

http://limpehft.blogspot.ca/2014/12/you ... facts.html

Democracy will only happen if Singaporeans dare to stand up and not be afraid to speak up. And of course vote wisely in the next election.

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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby x9200 » Mon, 29 Dec 2014 8:57 am

FreeSpiritRunner wrote:A really good article by Limpeh:

http://limpehft.blogspot.ca/2014/12/you ... facts.html

Democracy will only happen if Singaporeans dare to stand up and not be afraid to speak up. And of course vote wisely in the next election.

A very typical, myopic perspective of a person who has no clue neither of the Western countries nor understands his own actually.

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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 29 Dec 2014 4:53 pm

x9200 wrote:
FreeSpiritRunner wrote:A really good article by Limpeh:

http://limpehft.blogspot.ca/2014/12/you ... facts.html

Democracy will only happen if Singaporeans dare to stand up and not be afraid to speak up. And of course vote wisely in the next election.

A very typical, myopic perspective of a person who has no clue neither of the Western countries nor understands his own actually.


LOL

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Re: 'Like Hong Kong, Singapore needs democracy'

Postby nakatago » Mon, 29 Dec 2014 5:20 pm

FreeSpiritRunner wrote:A really good article by Limpeh:

http://limpehft.blogspot.ca/2014/12/you ... facts.html

Democracy will only happen if Singaporeans dare to stand up and not be afraid to speak up. And of course vote wisely in the next election.



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