Some companies do work only with recruiters. Sending your resumes to their career site is like sending to a black hole. If the same resume was pitched by a recruiter, you would get a call immediately! Networking and personal referral is a completely different ball game. What if that company is completely out of your network?Brah wrote:I think there is a trend to not use headhunters if they can, so using your network can really pay off and be mutually-beneficial (referral fee / job).Sergei82 wrote:Some companies work through recruiters ONLY.
^^^ thisthe lynx wrote:And to add to the above posters, if the company can get the candidate without having to pay the recruiter, they are more happy to receive your CV. So it is always good to be diligent and do your homework.
I think Singapore was bad to start and got even worse. I too have got the no update thing so many times I can't count. I won't work with those people again.brian_singapore wrote:I haven't experienced anything quite like this in other countries - so yes, Singapore IT recruiters encountered during my job hunt.... sounds like it's on topic ?Sergei82 wrote:Does all that in this thread describe Singapore only? I thought, it is about recruiting as industry, Singapore has nothing to do with it.
Much, much better headhunters in Japan (mostly foreigners).
Well, another industry. It was time to get out of IT years ago, especially banking IT. And most of the salespeople and traders I know no longer do those jobs or even work in banking anymore. It's not only cheaper workers, it's magnitudes of less people being employed by the industry. We have Dick Fuld to thank for some of this.Aragorn2000 wrote:So we underlings who do IT are screwed because of outsourcing. But in another thread, JR8's experience with business jobs (finance) doesn't sound very rosy either. It's the inevitable consequence of globalization when jobs are commoditized and we are being displaced by millions of cheaper workers.
So unless we become entrepreneurs, which is a pretty sure way to destroy ourselves financially, are we destined to be doomed financially?
Recruiters in Australia are even worse than in Singapore. Some are downright rude. I think the bottom line is whether we get the job or not. We just need to manage our expectation when speaking to recruiters. I'm always in fire-and-forget mode. If there is any traction with a job application, recruiters will come back.