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Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th floor

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 4:45 pm

So it looks like I'll be moving soon to an apartment situated on the fourth floor, there are no lifts to haul things up.
so when I eventually move I'll be faced with the prospect of
a.) hauling boxes up and running down the stairs
b.) moving a front loader washing machine which is probably the heaviest item I've got.
I was also contemplating about getting some sort of pulley system which I can attach to the balcony, does any one know if these kind of pulley systems are available here?
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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby JR8 » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 5:16 pm

How much stuff have you got?

I've done this a couple of ways. Once when moving a short distance, a few streets, into a 4th floor 'walk-up' (7? flights of stairs) I got together 4-5 friends on a Sunday morning with the promise of a no holds barred slap up lunch on me down the pub afterwards. That worked fine but it was hard physical work.

2nd time was a professional move, ex a 4th/5th storey apartment. There was a passenger lift but for speed they brought a thing like.... er, a tractor, from which unfolded a conveyor belt structure that even at 45 degrees reached all the way up to our unit. So rather than everything going via the lift, from the opened kitchen window they simply put filled boxes on the conveyor, and down they went.


Oh, and I've seen 'window deliveries' of things like sofas in buildings where there are no lifts, and the stairs are too narrow to walk it up. That's basically a bunch of Aussies with ropes standing on the roof. Only had this done once, and then the next time a few years later I was planning to, to replace said sofa was told 'No way, Health+Safety [laws], are you crazy, no one's going to touch a job like that'...

p.s. Washing machines seem to contain two sodding huge concrete slabs on the internal sides, that probably act as stabilisers. Get them out while moving the machine and the net machine actually weighs very little.

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 7:39 pm

I've got about approx. 25 smallish cardboard boxes filled with stuff that would weigh anywhere between five to ten kilos on average.
Some suitcases which will be filled with clothes and the like. so approx 4 suitcases with 30 kilos each.
An oven, the washing machine, some minor electronics, and a small writing desk and a shelf.
I did move from a 1st floor walkup to a HDB which a pain in the ar**, narrow flight of stairs and we had a right angle to counter too.
There's a little Indian guy who drives a small truck who helped us out last time, we payed about a 50$ for the move and he also gave us a hand with the loading and unloading, I'm expecting something similar, I'm just worried about moving that washing machine up to the fourth floor but I'll have a look at that washing machine again about the stabilizers.
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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby x9200 » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 8:14 pm

IIRC Shalom Movers quoted me $20 per storey (in case something didn't fit the lifts). They are not that cheap so possibly you could find somebody to do it (the washing machine) for $50 or so (total). The rest I would do by myself/engage friends.

You can buy basic pulleys at Masterpro but how are you going to fix it above your window?

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby GSM8 » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 8:43 pm

You could try an appliance dolly. I've used it to move furniture and fridge to 3rd floor via stairs while in US (thats what it was referred to there, not sure if it goes by a different terminology here)

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 8:44 pm

x9200 wrote:You can buy basic pulleys at Masterpro but how are you going to fix it above your window?


on the fourth floor there is a staircase area with a balcony space and it has quite a sturdy railing, I was thinking of attaching the pulley to this railing.
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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby x9200 » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 8:53 pm

They have this type:

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small/medium sizes. Also the ropes. Up to 30kg should be ok.

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 10:50 pm

^
thats exactly the kinds i was looking for, I might combine two of them so I can get a better Mechanical Advantage out of them. Time to recollect some high school Physics
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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Sun, 02 Nov 2014 11:01 pm

GSM8 wrote:You could try an appliance dolly. I've used it to move furniture and fridge to 3rd floor via stairs while in US (thats what it was referred to there, not sure if it goes by a different terminology here)


its going to be an expensive affair here so i guess it won't work for me. but I saw some youtube videos of it and I must say it's a saving grace where staircases are involved.
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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby nakatago » Mon, 03 Nov 2014 7:42 am

rajagainstthemachine wrote:
GSM8 wrote:You could try an appliance dolly. I've used it to move furniture and fridge to 3rd floor via stairs while in US (thats what it was referred to there, not sure if it goes by a different terminology here)


its going to be an expensive affair here so i guess it won't work for me. but I saw some youtube videos of it and I must say it's a saving grace where staircases are involved.


Get/borrow one with big pneumatic tires so at least you can have it "roll" on stairs on step at a time. Way better than lifting by hand anyway; even if without stairs, at least you can haul more stuff faster because you don't have to spend so much energy lifting stuff.

I bought myself one of these (and some bungee cords), albeit it's only for max 100 kg but at least, I'd be able to lug around 3 boxes at a time or for those rare times where I have to buy something heavy-ish or unwieldy

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Non-folding ones with all-steel construction can carry much heavier stuff. There are even ones designed for stairs; instead of one big wheel, they have a triangle of three wheels. Image

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby ecureilx » Mon, 03 Nov 2014 8:17 am

my 2 cents.

these pulley systems etc are not allowed, and need to have certified people to handle it

And can be a safety issue, if you decide to DIY and in the process endanger the public.

Now, if the stuff went up by stair case, for the right price, the right Mover will bring it down ..

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby rajagainstthemachine » Mon, 03 Nov 2014 1:39 pm

i didn't know you needed a certification to pull something up using a pulley, as for endangering humans, the apartment is usually empty most of the time, there are two entrances one from the front and one from the back, the one at the back is what I'm referring to.
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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby the lynx » Mon, 03 Nov 2014 1:49 pm

rajagainstthemachine wrote:i didn't know you needed a certification to pull something up using a pulley, as for endangering humans, the apartment is usually empty most of the time, there are two entrances one from the front and one from the back, the one at the back is what I'm referring to.


It is part of WSH initiatives. There is certificate for every task like working from height, working in enclosed spaces, working with heavy machinery etc.

http://wsh.ntuclearninghub.com/work-at-height-course-for-supervisors

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby x9200 » Mon, 03 Nov 2014 2:02 pm

I don't think a certificate for this type of the job is needed (please prove me wrong and I will humbly accept it - mere existance of a WHS course is not a proof) but there could be some issue indeed on the general public safety grounds.

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Re: Looking for a Pulley system to haul stuff to the 4th flo

Postby the lynx » Mon, 03 Nov 2014 2:23 pm

x9200 wrote:I don't think a certificate for this type of the job is needed (please prove me wrong and I will humbly accept it - mere existance of a WHS course is not a proof) but there could be some issue indeed on the general public safety grounds.


Yeah it is more for employees who are hired to perform these tasks. Don't know about adventurous individuals though...


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