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Postby nutnut » Thu, 09 Oct 2014 8:31 pm

Singapore is exactly the same as where I came from, except a few unimportant things.

I am still me, that has not changed, only my surroundings have changed.

In other words, if you are moving to feel significant change, the move alone won't be enough, that's not what changed my life, instead, the effort I put into changing my life, changed my life and that is something I don't want to share with someone who is unable to properly ask questions.

Of course, feel free to lose me with your sarcasm, I am easily lost.
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Re: How has living in Singapore changed your life?

Postby Brah » Thu, 09 Oct 2014 9:52 pm

emjay wrote:Hopefully moving to Singapore has had a positive impact on people's lives. But for some, maybe not? How has living in Singapore changed your life for better or worse:
Personally
Family
Financially
Socially
Mentally
Whatever?

I'll take 'whatever' for the win.

I will say that I do enjoy the occasional troll whupping, something I didn't do much before coming here.

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Postby emjay » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 3:21 am

Having read a lot of posts on here by most of you, it's no wonder I took the attitude I did. Apparently you have all appointed yourselves the fountain of all knowledge and heaven forbid some poor buggar who is new here might ask a question you deign to feel is below your standards. Who's the troll? The new person who came to this forum looking for some help and advice naively expecting that people on here might cut them a bit of slack if they asked a question that's been asked before or seems a bit trivial? Or the so-called moderators and old hands who have taken it upon themselves to slap down the new guy. Good on you, if that's what it takes to boost your ego. As for me, I think I will go find another way of finding my answers that doesn't involve going on a forum that has about as much maturity roaming its halls as the high school down the road. Good luck gentleman - thanks for the 'help and support'.

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Postby Strong Eagle » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 6:06 am

emjay wrote:Having read a lot of posts on here by most of you, it's no wonder I took the attitude I did. Apparently you have all appointed yourselves the fountain of all knowledge and heaven forbid some poor buggar who is new here might ask a question you deign to feel is below your standards. Who's the troll? The new person who came to this forum looking for some help and advice naively expecting that people on here might cut them a bit of slack if they asked a question that's been asked before or seems a bit trivial? Or the so-called moderators and old hands who have taken it upon themselves to slap down the new guy. Good on you, if that's what it takes to boost your ego. As for me, I think I will go find another way of finding my answers that doesn't involve going on a forum that has about as much maturity roaming its halls as the high school down the road. Good luck gentleman - thanks for the 'help and support'.


Hey... there are some jaded souls on the board... perhaps the number of trolls, scammers, and fundamentally "carrot" (that's Singaporese for "clueless") people that post may have had something to do with it.

Mostly, you'll get answers that are all across the board for each of your categories. For example:

Personal - I loved my time here... I sponsored a man to come to work here... he lasted six months... too "foreign" for his tastes.

Family - My wife initially had a tough time, but grew to love Singapore and grieved over leaving. A lady friend of mine hated the place... hubby and she arrived and he promptly divorced his wife to take up with a young Asian sweetie. She came out alright, though... he gave up so much for a divorce, and she's happy again.

Financially - Again, some folks come over on amazing expat packages (not so many any more). They have great housing, great salary, and lots of spare money. Others get in at a galley slave's wage. From a third world country this might still look good, for those from more developed places, saving money is a bitch.

Socially - Entirely up to you. From the expat side of things, relationships are easy to cultivate because thee and she/he have the commonality of lost home and new stomping grounds. And, you can make friendships in the community, if you become involved. But if you're planning to do your two year tour in Holland Village, engaging only with other expats, you'll be insulated.

Mentally - On the one hand, Singapore is really great. Great infrastructure. Almost like Disneyworld when it comes to its entertainment, tourist, and eating amenities. Great jump off point to see lots of other parts of Asia. I really enjoyed my time. OTOH, "island fever" is real... it sets in (depending on your own mental state) two to five years after you've been here. You basically get sooooo f*cking tired of the ignoramus behaviors you see over and over and over again on the part of the locals. Idiots who insist on jamming their way into lifts and MRT doors before allowing anyone off. Arseholes that walk five across on Orchard who are completely surprised to be shoulder blocked to the curb. You will initially love Singapore, you will later become disillusioned... and, this applies to work as well... clueless "managers" that can't make a decision, and a workforce that lives in their own private box... nothing can be done that is not within the box... only the very few are aware enough of what it takes to excel.

Whatever? - I got to travel extensively... partly with my job, and partly having the time to do things I would never have done if not in Asia. I got to golf almost every week at Batam... wonderful courses, great caddies, and massage girls that really knew how to get the job done. I miss that.

Be aware also that, if you stay any length of time, it will be harder to leave Singapore than it was to leave your home country. You might have the expectation of returning one day, and that eases your view of leaving. But, when you leave Singapore to return (or go elsewhere), you realize that you are giving up a great lifestyle, losing good friends that you may never see again, and returning to a place that just doesn't look so good by comparison.

So... I don't know if you are a grad student looking to find filler for a thesis, or a person genuinely interested in understanding what it means to be an expat. This is one person's view... and as I said... others will be 180 degrees different.
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Re: Pfffffttttt....

Postby nakatago » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 6:11 am

emjay wrote:Having read a lot of posts on here by most of you, it's no wonder I took the attitude I did. Apparently you have all appointed yourselves the fountain of all knowledge and heaven forbid some poor buggar who is new here might ask a question you deign to feel is below your standards. Who's the troll? The new person who came to this forum looking for some help and advice naively expecting that people on here might cut them a bit of slack if they asked a question that's been asked before or seems a bit trivial? Or the so-called moderators and old hands who have taken it upon themselves to slap down the new guy. Good on you, if that's what it takes to boost your ego. As for me, I think I will go find another way of finding my answers that doesn't involve going on a forum that has about as much maturity roaming its halls as the high school down the road. Good luck gentleman - thanks for the 'help and support'.


That's how living in Singapore changed people's lives. It made them even more jaded and cynical.

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Re: Pfffffttttt....

Postby x9200 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 8:39 am

nakatago wrote:That's how living in Singapore changed people's lives. It made them even more jaded and cynical.

That's how coming to Singapore changes some. They think they are now better as their heads stick out from the crowd probably for the first time so if they don't get what they expected they begin to act like some AHs.
What is interesting, how closely they follow the same behavioral patterns, or maybe it is not.

(yes, I got your sarcasm)

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Re: How has living in Singapore changed your life?

Postby the lynx » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 9:17 am

emjay wrote:
the lynx wrote:
emjay wrote:Hopefully moving to Singapore has had a positive impact on people's lives. But for some, maybe not? How has living in Singapore changed your life for better or worse:
Personally
Family
Financially
Socially
Mentally
Whatever?


One thing that is constant in this question, is that we all change. And each one of us is the sum of all experiences we have.


Awesome, thanks for that that Gandhi. Really helpful. No doubt the sarcasm will be lost on you.


It was meant as half-jest in light spirit, considering that this question is very very subjective. Like what Strong Eagle said, different people will take it differently. You can even have two persons coming from the same town in USA, having grown up in the same neighbourhood back there, and one hates this place while the other loves this place.

I have lived here for 5 years. A lot of things changed. Some good and some bad. And things I thought is bad, some people thought it was good, and vice versa. Like how clean and efficient Singapore is, how sterile and close-minded people can be here, how colourful and dynamic the cultural melting pot gets, how amazing places can be reached in SE Asia from here...

Singapore is what you make and take for it. You're trying for a teaching role here, right? I personally think you will learn the most in this because you will interact and OBSERVE a whole lot more different personalities in your students, staff, neighbours, friends and even people on the street.

Despite your sarcasm (nope it wasn't lost on me, unfortunately), I wish you all the best for your teaching role.

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Postby Wd40 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 9:28 am

nutnut wrote:Singapore is exactly the same as where I came from, except a few unimportant things.



Is Singapore exactly the same like UK? :o

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Postby the lynx » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 9:29 am

Wd40 wrote:
nutnut wrote:Singapore is exactly the same as where I came from, except a few unimportant things.



Is Singapore exactly the same like UK? :o


You've been to the UK yet? :mrgreen:

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Postby JR8 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 9:32 am

the lynx wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
nutnut wrote:Singapore is exactly the same as where I came from, except a few unimportant things.



Is Singapore exactly the same like UK? :o

You've been to the UK yet? :mrgreen:



Parallels could be drawn to a tropical version of West/Central London :lol:

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Postby zzm9980 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:54 am

the lynx wrote:
Wd40 wrote:
nutnut wrote:Singapore is exactly the same as where I came from, except a few unimportant things.



Is Singapore exactly the same like UK? :o


You've been to the UK yet? :mrgreen:


no, but his cousin saw it on TV and told him about it!

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Postby zzm9980 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:54 am

sundaymorningstaple wrote:
x9200 wrote:Unless something has changed in more recent versions of phpbb it required manual editing of the sql tables so I wonder the same.


The last time that was done was a number of years ago for "Eric from the Netherlands". It has to be done by Admin, so I'm guessing she figures she shouldn't have been using her real name (true) and approached Pal/Joop to change it. Makes sense to me, especially with her uppity attitude toward Lynx and some others here who are only trying to help.


Seems like a lot of work for someone with so few posts. Lucky for us, not for her, all of the posts with identifying info were quotes so that her original name is in them. Oops. :cool:

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Postby BillyB » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:04 pm

Strong Eagle wrote:
emjay wrote:Having read a lot of posts on here by most of you, it's no wonder I took the attitude I did. Apparently you have all appointed yourselves the fountain of all knowledge and heaven forbid some poor buggar who is new here might ask a question you deign to feel is below your standards. Who's the troll? The new person who came to this forum looking for some help and advice naively expecting that people on here might cut them a bit of slack if they asked a question that's been asked before or seems a bit trivial? Or the so-called moderators and old hands who have taken it upon themselves to slap down the new guy. Good on you, if that's what it takes to boost your ego. As for me, I think I will go find another way of finding my answers that doesn't involve going on a forum that has about as much maturity roaming its halls as the high school down the road. Good luck gentleman - thanks for the 'help and support'.


Hey... there are some jaded souls on the board... perhaps the number of trolls, scammers, and fundamentally "carrot" (that's Singaporese for "clueless") people that post may have had something to do with it.

Mostly, you'll get answers that are all across the board for each of your categories. For example:

Personal - I loved my time here... I sponsored a man to come to work here... he lasted six months... too "foreign" for his tastes.

Family - My wife initially had a tough time, but grew to love Singapore and grieved over leaving. A lady friend of mine hated the place... hubby and she arrived and he promptly divorced his wife to take up with a young Asian sweetie. She came out alright, though... he gave up so much for a divorce, and she's happy again.

Financially - Again, some folks come over on amazing expat packages (not so many any more). They have great housing, great salary, and lots of spare money. Others get in at a galley slave's wage. From a third world country this might still look good, for those from more developed places, saving money is a bitch.

Socially - Entirely up to you. From the expat side of things, relationships are easy to cultivate because thee and she/he have the commonality of lost home and new stomping grounds. And, you can make friendships in the community, if you become involved. But if you're planning to do your two year tour in Holland Village, engaging only with other expats, you'll be insulated.

Mentally - On the one hand, Singapore is really great. Great infrastructure. Almost like Disneyworld when it comes to its entertainment, tourist, and eating amenities. Great jump off point to see lots of other parts of Asia. I really enjoyed my time. OTOH, "island fever" is real... it sets in (depending on your own mental state) two to five years after you've been here. You basically get sooooo f*cking tired of the ignoramus behaviors you see over and over and over again on the part of the locals. Idiots who insist on jamming their way into lifts and MRT doors before allowing anyone off. Arseholes that walk five across on Orchard who are completely surprised to be shoulder blocked to the curb. You will initially love Singapore, you will later become disillusioned... and, this applies to work as well... clueless "managers" that can't make a decision, and a workforce that lives in their own private box... nothing can be done that is not within the box... only the very few are aware enough of what it takes to excel.

Whatever? - I got to travel extensively... partly with my job, and partly having the time to do things I would never have done if not in Asia. I got to golf almost every week at Batam... wonderful courses, great caddies, and massage girls that really knew how to get the job done. I miss that.

Be aware also that, if you stay any length of time, it will be harder to leave Singapore than it was to leave your home country. You might have the expectation of returning one day, and that eases your view of leaving. But, when you leave Singapore to return (or go elsewhere), you realize that you are giving up a great lifestyle, losing good friends that you may never see again, and returning to a place that just doesn't look so good by comparison.

So... I don't know if you are a grad student looking to find filler for a thesis, or a person genuinely interested in understanding what it means to be an expat. This is one person's view... and as I said... others will be 180 degrees different.


+1 to the highlighted section.

The daily monotony of dealing with the constant 'stupidity' (let's be politically correct here!) of others, and how their actions force you to take time out of your life, collectively adds up and has become a point of frustration for me.

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Postby x9200 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:06 pm

zzm9980 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
x9200 wrote:Unless something has changed in more recent versions of phpbb it required manual editing of the sql tables so I wonder the same.


The last time that was done was a number of years ago for "Eric from the Netherlands". It has to be done by Admin, so I'm guessing she figures she shouldn't have been using her real name (true) and approached Pal/Joop to change it. Makes sense to me, especially with her uppity attitude toward Lynx and some others here who are only trying to help.


Seems like a lot of work for someone with so few posts. Lucky for us, not for her, all of the posts with identifying info were quotes so that her original name is in them. Oops. :cool:


It is not that much work if you have some web base SQL management software installed - for example phpmyadmin, and know which tables contain the name (could be populated over a few).

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Postby zzm9980 » Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:18 pm

x9200 wrote:
zzm9980 wrote:
sundaymorningstaple wrote:
x9200 wrote:Unless something has changed in more recent versions of phpbb it required manual editing of the sql tables so I wonder the same.


The last time that was done was a number of years ago for "Eric from the Netherlands". It has to be done by Admin, so I'm guessing she figures she shouldn't have been using her real name (true) and approached Pal/Joop to change it. Makes sense to me, especially with her uppity attitude toward Lynx and some others here who are only trying to help.


Seems like a lot of work for someone with so few posts. Lucky for us, not for her, all of the posts with identifying info were quotes so that her original name is in them. Oops. :cool:


It is not that much work if you have some web base SQL management software installed - for example phpmyadmin, and know which tables contain the name (could be populated over a few).


I meant more that she should have just made a new account. Her old name is still immortalized via the posts being quoted.


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