There is no national pride in this country. There is only $$$ prideEmergency123 wrote:I do not understand why the locals would want foreigners in their armed forces of all places.IMO it shows a lack of national pride.
2nd gen,like in the current system , is slightly better since the person has probably been in Singapore his whole life and is more likely to feel that he/she is Singaporean ( although lacking voting rights )
And yet 'permanent' is not permanent - it is only for 10 years... so one might understand others confusion on the definition.sundaymorningstaple wrote: It's also a good way to determine who wants PR because they understand what "Permanent" means, or if they are here only to game the system.
I may not have understood the distinction with the re-entry pass and this may have contributed to my miss-understanding, but I thought I'd read a number of posts stipulating that the PR had to be renewed every 10 years. From what I understood it was more or less automatic as long as you lived and worked in Singapore but was still a necessary step?sundaymorningstaple wrote:Sorry brian, but permanent IS permanent as long as you are in Singapore unless it has changed and I'm not aware of it. In fact, the re-entry permit is only good for 5 years now. But you do NOT need a REP to stay in Singapore as a PR. However IF you want to leave Singapore you DO need a re-entry permit to come back into the country, but if you never leave, it's not required to be maintained. As noted elsewhere, I went for 15 months without a re-entry permit.
If it has changed, give me the link as I hate havin' egg on me face!
I back up SMS. I too had one of the last 10 year REP's (which, in retrsospect, was given because I qualified both on PTS and Family Ties). And yes, I have many friends here who have had to stay IN Singapore until they've been in a good enough position job wise to get their REP. I've also had friends who said stuff it - taken their CPF and that overseas job offer.sundaymorningstaple wrote:Only if you plan on leaving Singapore. So, realistically speaking it is required, but now only for 5 year intervals. I had one of the last 10 year REPs. These are no longer available. But as said, realistically, not technically, speaking, it required but technically, if you never leave Singapore, e.g., Batam, or JB, then you don't need it after you have the first one. But if you want to go shopping in JB or play golf in Batam you need it.
The US one really is quite permanent. It expires every 10 years, but it's akin to just getting a new drivers license. Photo update and such.PNGMK wrote:Brian,
Australia and NZ PR's are almost the same. To be able to re-enter the country after 5 years or so... you need to have a re-entry permit of some sort. The US green card has similar rules I think.
Really? So how do they catch PRs that stayed out too long on entry? Are all of those people voluntarily saying they were gone? I was always under the assumption the airline reported that you left when you exited the country.brian_singapore wrote:All PR schemes have residency requirements (and should). One of the issues in my home country is immigration control doesn't keep a record of when someone leaves the country so has no idea if you've been gone for a day or a year.