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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by BBCDoc » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 9:35 am

Jeez,

WTF is going on with this thread? Suddenly become an agony aunt column for miscreants lamenting their misfortunes with the authorities...


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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:10 am

ecureilx wrote:
Jacktim wrote:I really thought it is just as simple as pickup a phone and sell. Never think of so serious ](*,). IO allow me to bail with investigation and ask me to return back the unused money to them next day. It is torturing to wait for 2 weeks for return back police station.
Pick up a phone and sell is still illegal my friend.

That simple ?

You pink IC ?
For future reference when you find something valuable you take it to your nearest NPP. After sometime if no one claim you can claim.
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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by Jacktim » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:24 am

PNGMK wrote:
ecureilx wrote:
Jacktim wrote:I really thought it is just as simple as pickup a phone and sell. Never think of so serious ](*,). IO allow me to bail with investigation and ask me to return back the unused money to them next day. It is torturing to wait for 2 weeks for return back police station.
Pick up a phone and sell is still illegal my friend.

That simple ?

You pink IC ?
For future reference when you find something valuable you take it to your nearest NPP. After sometime if no one claim you can claim.
I totally understand and regret of my foolish act. I wonder should i give my IO a call or just let them internally sync up and wait until the may 2 weeks bond bail period are up. How likely will i get charge? Many thanks in advance.

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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by ecureilx » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:32 am

Jacktim wrote:I totally understand and regret of my foolish act. I wonder should i give my IO a call or just let them internally sync up and wait until the may 2 weeks bond bail period are up. How likely will i get charge? Many thanks in advance.

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too late to say foolish.

More likely pushed your luck.

Wait, IO don't need to internally sync .. whatever that mean.

Call closer to date.

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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by ecureilx » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 10:33 am

PNGMK wrote: For future reference when you find something valuable you take it to your nearest NPP. After sometime if no one claim you can claim.
didn't know you can claim if nobody claimed ;)

so can claim and sell ? ;)

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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by PNGMK » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 12:28 pm

ecureilx wrote:
PNGMK wrote: For future reference when you find something valuable you take it to your nearest NPP. After sometime if no one claim you can claim.
didn't know you can claim if nobody claimed ;)

so can claim and sell ? ;)
I can't recall how it works.
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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by sundaymorningstaple » Mon, 13 Nov 2017 4:11 pm

I believe you can. As PNGMK noted, as long as you have turned it in, after a given amount of time 'squatter's rights' kick in I believe. Again, I pretty sure it exists, but the actual method and duration it needs to sit there I don't know. It is similar to unclaimed airport luggage after a period of time. But there as it's unclaimed, it's auctioned off, normally to a liquidator but occasionally it open to the public.
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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by PNGMK » Tue, 14 Nov 2017 9:29 am

Jacktim wrote:I really thought it is just as simple as pickup a phone and sell. Never think of so serious ](*,). IO allow me to bail with investigation and ask me to return back the unused money to them next day. It is torturing to wait for 2 weeks for return back police station.
Jack - I will not provide legal advice via PMs or otherwise as I am not a lawyer. I suggest you ring or visit the Law Society and ask them for a list of solicitors and consult a few. The first consultation is normally free. Ask for a fixed fee to handle the case.
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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by Jacktim » Fri, 17 Nov 2017 3:13 pm

I read so much that police giving stern warning for first offense. I wonder can police issue fines or it must be prosecute to court? Kindly advise. Thanks

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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by PNGMK » Fri, 17 Nov 2017 5:56 pm

Jacktim wrote:I read so much that police giving stern warning for first offense. I wonder can police issue fines or it must be prosecute to court? Kindly advise. Thanks

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There are three parties involved:

1. The arresting officer - does he refer to IO? In your case yes.
2. The IO - does he refer to AGC? Probably yes in your case.
3. The AGC (gahmen) - do they recommend to IO to prosecute - depends lah.

The only time a fine (compounding) can be offered by the police is when compounding is allowed within law and the limits of the law. This usually applies to traffic offenses in the main.
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Re: arrested for theft for first time.

Post by Jacktim » Fri, 17 Nov 2017 6:18 pm

PNGMK wrote:
Jacktim wrote:I read so much that police giving stern warning for first offense. I wonder can police issue fines or it must be prosecute to court? Kindly advise. Thanks

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There are three parties involved:

1. The arresting officer - does he refer to IO? In your case yes.
2. The IO - does he refer to AGC? Probably yes in your case.
3. The AGC (gahmen) - do they recommend to IO to prosecute - depends lah.

The only time a fine (compounding) can be offered by the police is when compounding is allowed within law and the limits of the law. This usually applies to traffic offenses in the main.
Haiz Image. Like that my case high chance will be prosecute to court instead of stern warning.

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