
Aren't schools closed because of the haze? I remember MOE announced that last week.Steve1960 wrote:Its a real drag with a 5 year old, an 11 month old baby and no live in maid anymore. We can get the 5 year old to wear an N95 mask but still can't get her to school because the baby can't wear the mask. So I have to try and adjust my working times at the office or the eldest has to miss school
And how is this 'transboundary' legal action going to be enforcible?earthfriendly wrote:"...Pursuant to our Transboundary Haze Pollution Act, we will be issuing notices in the days to come."
By penalising companies that are the source of the haze.JR8 wrote:And how is this 'transboundary' legal action going to be enforcible?earthfriendly wrote:"...Pursuant to our Transboundary Haze Pollution Act, we will be issuing notices in the days to come."
And who are they: I mean given the scale of the issue the perps must be household names by now?ecureilx wrote:By penalising companies that are the source of the haze.
Well, they been getting away from it claiming the slash and burn is done by a contractor of a contractor of a contractor of a contractor ..JR8 wrote:And who are they: I mean given the scale of the issue the perps must be household names by now?ecureilx wrote:By penalising companies that are the source of the haze.
WWF ? mmmm. never mind. I trust their statistics and reportsJR8 wrote: In a similar vein, as in, actively participate or do nothing until the consequences become intolerable...
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'Singapore is one of the largest shark fin trading nation[s].'
http://www.wwf.sg
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Complicated.
So RCC imports such huge volume of Shark Fin, to feed how many ?JR8 wrote:'Fu Lin Men is a Chinese restaurant that provides fine dining experience. Award-winning Executive Chef Roy Tan brings fine Chinese cuisine to new heights with his masterful interpretation of the “Four Heavenly Kings” – abalone, sharks-fin, sea cucumber and fish maw.'
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http://www.rcc.org.sg/food-beverage/sha ... urant.html
Raffles Country Club
Klassy eh?
I didn't sat that did I; calm down? But it's precisely that attitude that is the problem. The 'I can do this thing as it's a part of my culture, I alone make no difference, everyone else is doing it so why not me?' - until whole ecosystems are eradicated, and still that thinking doesn't care until it lands right back on the doorstep.ecureilx wrote:So RCC imports such huge volume of Shark Fin, to feed how many ?![]()
Like a million people ? to be possibly 'the largest buyer of shark's fin' ?
Oh so it's someone else's problem, head in sand, do nothing? Meanwhile lets eradicate rhinos and tigers too ....ooh yummy.ecureilx wrote:I am sure I will lose this argument, but there are other countries with much bigger shark fin fanatics and I am sure they import in huge and massive volumes, and to paint Singapore as a large whatever ???
Sorry are you offended somehow? Is the shark-fin ban some kind of personal imposition on your lifestyle? Funny, I'd have thought there were much bigger fish to fry (as such) in that region of the world.ecureilx wrote:And that too on top of the fact that quite a few restaurants here have gone Shark Fin free.
Let's guess. That's in States with many Chinese people? I.e. States where people would rather be obliged to vomit on their shoes vs eat sharks fin haven't banned it? You do realise it's a globally weird food product, akin to paying $100/ounce to eat spiders webs or similar?ecureilx wrote:And comparatively, in US, I read somewhere that only about a dozen states have banned shark's fin, though there are exemptions to that too, i.e. as long as the fin is attached to a piece of shark meat ..
Quite; and I'm pro-whaling (as much as popular opinion hates me for it).ecureilx wrote:Ps, since I am already drawn into this kind of hypocrisy, take a look at Sea Shepherd, and their campaign against Japanese whaling, and then look up who decimated the whales in such huge volume, before even the world took note and then now the japanese whalers are the most hated ..
No, and never have been. More a supporter of common sense over sentimentality, ignorance, or vested interests. Or at least I'd like to think soecureilx wrote:Are you a supporter of WWF and the likes, JR8 ?
You win, good night !
me is never offended ..JR8 wrote:..
I vow to try harder thenecureilx wrote:me is never offended ..
But I still get a bit confused when instead, for example, saying "Singapore imports shark fins", the headline is made like "Singapore is a large importer of Shark's fins"
Generally I agree with you there. I'm pro-whaling, if it's within legal quotas. The trouble with finning is that much of it is illegal, and hence uncontrolled. So what with the 'everything must grab now, and sod those who come along tomorrow' attitude the future for shark's looks bleak. And wiping out apex predators usually spells doom for an ecosystem. If you're say a village fisherman on Tioman island (not trying to catch sharks), an illegal Thai shark trawler still ultimately threatens your family's livelihood.ecureilx wrote:Just to clarify, I don't eat Shark's fin, nor do I agree with it, but my 2 cents is, like the Japanese whaling apparently for tradition/centuries old belief in eating whales, you gotta respect what different cultures have been following for centuries, and the focus should be on converting them, not imposing on them.
Er but cows and sheep aren't wildlife. In the same way there would be much less of an issue with fins if sharks could be commercially farmed... but they can't.ecureilx wrote:In any case, once the attention of the WWf and the likes moves away from Sharks' fin, they may decide eating cows is bad, eating sheep is bad ..
I know some of these 'eco' charities can be pretty loony. At times I find it rather challenging identifying charities that don't campaign against things I believe in. [I wonder if the Red Cross have policies on climate change, finning and vegetarianism... ].ecureilx wrote:As it is, there is a strong campaign by Greenpeace and their likes to totally stop commercial fishing, if they had their way, never mind the hundreds of thousands who's livelihood is at stake. Let them eat grass, seems to be their current thinking.
Not gonna express what I think about SS and the Captain Watson.
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