i'm no pro at this, but i'd wonder (if i were ICA) what you had to contribute to singapore in the long run...puntu wrote:Hi All,
I have been reading this forum since long getting valuable tips.. thank you guys. I am now planning to apply for a PR application.. need your advise
My profile
Years in Singapore: 2 Years 9 Months
Age: 35 years
Status: Male Single
Education: Bachelors degree in Engineering
Occupation: Consultant with a SG company for a Investment Bank (IT field)
Compensation: Year 2013 - 166K, 2012 - 157K
Filed Taxes: 2013 & 2014 in all given 26 K in taxes to govt in last 2 years
Working with same company since coming to singapore
I have no past police record any where.. in singapore too.
Do you think I have a chance .. considering I am Indian, I know competition is very tough here, quite a few people apply and share of quota is less for Indians.
Kindly share your expert opinions
my reply was not meant to be offensive or hostile in nature, but i understand it certainly has taken on such a form as i re-read it. it was unintentional and a direct result of my interpretation of your post.puntu wrote:thanks for the replies.. i see thats (how I can be of any value to Singapore) a very good question . I checked the application form 4A to see any space where I can add a few good points regarding how I can be of any value to Singapore
Yes every one knows Singapore economy is built upon on its people. It is a economic machinery built on deposits and spendings of people .. may be it is friendly when a company wants to have a setup here.. few people would know that the strong IP rules in singapore is partly used to favour setting up of fronts for reducing tax (read tax evasion) in their home country, no surprise that singapore has a excellent treaties with 58 other leading nations for dual taxation avoidance. If I am not wrong there are 10s of thousands of companies registered here who do nothing in singapore just receive money and send money.. Other than that the housing scheme and CPF are major source, explains why they need more people with more money
Absolutely no one is surprised when singapore has many of the largest sovereign funds in the world.
For a commoner like my who is happy eating Idly and Samber and spend a few dollars on watching movies .. all that comes to my mind how I can give back to society. May be I need to look at common singaporians .. how they are giving back to nation apart from being responsible citizens and helping in community efforts.
I really don’t know what is govt thinking when they say Person X from Malaysia is a sales man for a bank selling credit cards is a better than Person Y from India working in a niche technology field in bank. Here we can make a comparison of similar banking background but very dissimilar job profiles.
May be they are they looking at the fact that Person X is a nice family man and would buy a HDB and send kids to govt run schools, and would buy a small family car.
On the other hand Person Y is skilled may find a better job elsewhere.. is that why they are so worried about past Job record and major contribution in my current job (there is a big space in form 4A for job contribution). I am really surprised how my job performance helps in a visa application. some relation with $$s that govt wants to predict.
kindly share your thoughts ..
BTW funny thing .. It seems I cant apply for PR .. as no green date available for me .. not in August, not September, not October, .... not not not and not in April 2015 too
I have taken the liberty to quote your last post as well as you have already indicated you want to do a runner. It's good to leave it as it allows other newbies to learn. As to your listed contributions, e.g., contributions to society, it has been abused so much by those who wish to gain PR that it's pretty obvious that most are just doing so to gain brownie points until such time as they gain PR or SC. I know. I've seen it happen first hand a number of times as I'm a long time RC member in my own housing estate. Anyway, good luck.puntu wrote:oh I am really sorry.. I never wanted to say any thing good or bad.. as always the selection criteria for PR has been controversial. Not a point based system as in other countries where it is much more stringent difficult to get residency (ex: Australia) but open so every one knows where they stand even before applying for residency
As of what contributions I have made to society, i have close to 70 days off since coming here. helping various social, non profit organisations here.. I have participated in 8 or more marathon runs. I believe it should be based on facts and figures not X is a nice man has kids and will probably stay and Y is not.. how can any one predict that Y will leave and X will stay.. I really feel they should make the criteria public
May I ask the moderator to remove this thread all together. I think this discussion has taken a very wrong turn..
May I request this thread be deleted for good.
if the criteria is transparent, it only means everybody will know exactly how to game it.puntu wrote:...the selection criteria for PR has been controversial. Not a point based system as in other countries where it is much more stringent difficult to get residency (ex: Australia) but open so every one knows where they stand even before applying for residency
...I believe it should be based on facts and figures not X is a nice man has kids and will probably stay and Y is not.. how can any one predict that Y will leave and X will stay.. I really feel they should make the criteria public.
I'm actually fascinated by your point of this. What disadvantage would a "young" country like Singapore have if it is a point-based system? I personally think it does give some objectivity to the criteria, unless there is something wrong about it that I don't know of - yet.taxico wrote:additionally, the points-based system establishes a preference for candidates based on past achievements (quantifiable credentials and skills) - something i think 49 year-old singapore does not wish to utilize at this time for the purposes of nation building.
i think the government doesn't want suitably qualified people working in the wrong industries, or coming in and not being able to land "the right type" of job... or competing in certain sectors/levels.the lynx wrote:I'm actually fascinated by your point of this. What disadvantage would a "young" country like Singapore have if it is a point-based system? I personally think it does give some objectivity to the criteria, unless there is something wrong about it that I don't know of - yet.taxico wrote:additionally, the points-based system establishes a preference for candidates based on past achievements (quantifiable credentials and skills) - something i think 49 year-old singapore does not wish to utilize at this time for the purposes of nation building.
The points system doesn't work as well as it should in Australia... dozens of useless doctors who won't move to country towns and engineers who won't work on the mines, whereas the refugees who come in bust their balls doing anything to get going and usually are a success (a refugee migrant from VN has just been appointed GG of South Australia).the lynx wrote:I'm actually fascinated by your point of this. What disadvantage would a "young" country like Singapore have if it is a point-based system? I personally think it does give some objectivity to the criteria, unless there is something wrong about it that I don't know of - yet.taxico wrote:additionally, the points-based system establishes a preference for candidates based on past achievements (quantifiable credentials and skills) - something i think 49 year-old singapore does not wish to utilize at this time for the purposes of nation building.
I personally know two gay guys in their 30s who go PR.PNGMK wrote:OP's profile strikes me as someone (no offense, but an Indian who has never married at 35 is going to raise the question) who might be gay. That will probably come up in ICA's checklist of issues as well. I do not know of any Gay male who has successfully applied for PR but I do know of one who has failed but of course no reason is ever given.
I know one too and he was close to 40 when he got it.curiousgeorge wrote:I personally know two gay guys in their 30s who go PR.PNGMK wrote:OP's profile strikes me as someone (no offense, but an Indian who has never married at 35 is going to raise the question) who might be gay. That will probably come up in ICA's checklist of issues as well. I do not know of any Gay male who has successfully applied for PR but I do know of one who has failed but of course no reason is ever given.
Interesting to know!x9200 wrote:I know one too and he was close to 40 when he got it.curiousgeorge wrote:I personally know two gay guys in their 30s who go PR.PNGMK wrote:OP's profile strikes me as someone (no offense, but an Indian who has never married at 35 is going to raise the question) who might be gay. That will probably come up in ICA's checklist of issues as well. I do not know of any Gay male who has successfully applied for PR but I do know of one who has failed but of course no reason is ever given.
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