I thought that is for 1st gen PRs who got it through Family Ties.PNGMK wrote:
2. 1st generation PR's normally apply for and are granted and exemption by CIMB (I think) from NS. I know I did. Technically if you haven't applied for an exemption and you are a male 1st gen PR I guess you could be a NS defaulter.
I was family ties (at 29 yo) and I was exempted, perhaps because of my age. I have no idea about the talent scheme but I thought it was the same.Wd40 wrote:I thought that is for 1st gen PRs who got it through Family Ties.PNGMK wrote:
2. 1st generation PR's normally apply for and are granted and exemption by CIMB (I think) from NS. I know I did. Technically if you haven't applied for an exemption and you are a male 1st gen PR I guess you could be a NS defaulter.
Those 1st gen PRs who got it because they are "Foreign Talents", have nothing to do with NS.
for 1st Generation PRs who get PR for their kids at the same time, the kids are liable for NSWd40 wrote:I thought that is for 1st gen PRs who got it through Family Ties.PNGMK wrote:
2. 1st generation PR's normally apply for and are granted and exemption by CIMB (I think) from NS. I know I did. Technically if you haven't applied for an exemption and you are a male 1st gen PR I guess you could be a NS defaulter.
Those 1st gen PRs who got it because they are "Foreign Talents", have nothing to do with NS.
same for Talent scheme ..PNGMK wrote:I was family ties (at 29 yo) and I was exempted, perhaps because of my age. I have no idea about the talent scheme but I thought it was the same.Wd40 wrote:I thought that is for 1st gen PRs who got it through Family Ties.PNGMK wrote:
2. 1st generation PR's normally apply for and are granted and exemption by CIMB (I think) from NS. I know I did. Technically if you haven't applied for an exemption and you are a male 1st gen PR I guess you could be a NS defaulter.
Those 1st gen PRs who got it because they are "Foreign Talents", have nothing to do with NS.
They could care less what you propose. It's their ball, their ball park and their rules. You want to be in the tournament, you play their game or you don't play. Simples.Wd40 wrote:Expecting 1st gen PRs to do NS is a bit insane. What about the loss of income of 2 years, how can that ever be recovered. Citizens get HDB for cheap, so that compensates for the 2 years loss of income.
Similarly I question how do you justify the 2 years loss of income for 2nd gen PRs especially now that PR's benefits have been stripped off a lot in comparison to citizens.
To make it fair, I propose that PRs who fulfill their NS duties must be accorded the benefits as citizens.
Then dont be surprised when 2nd gen PRs escape NS, just before the NS age.sundaymorningstaple wrote:They could care less what you propose. It's their ball, their ball park and their rules. You want to be in the tournament, you play their game or you don't play. Simples.Wd40 wrote:Expecting 1st gen PRs to do NS is a bit insane. What about the loss of income of 2 years, how can that ever be recovered. Citizens get HDB for cheap, so that compensates for the 2 years loss of income.
Similarly I question how do you justify the 2 years loss of income for 2nd gen PRs especially now that PR's benefits have been stripped off a lot in comparison to citizens.
To make it fair, I propose that PRs who fulfill their NS duties must be accorded the benefits as citizens.
Why do you always make yourself look like an idiot WD40? 1st Gen PR's who have to do NS are those who became PR's as kids... not as adults. 2 year loss of income no problem to a kid - they live with parents. To be fair Dr Ng response is a little confusing.Wd40 wrote:Then dont be surprised when 2nd gen PRs escape NS, just before the NS age.sundaymorningstaple wrote:They could care less what you propose. It's their ball, their ball park and their rules. You want to be in the tournament, you play their game or you don't play. Simples.Wd40 wrote:Expecting 1st gen PRs to do NS is a bit insane. What about the loss of income of 2 years, how can that ever be recovered. Citizens get HDB for cheap, so that compensates for the 2 years loss of income.
Similarly I question how do you justify the 2 years loss of income for 2nd gen PRs especially now that PR's benefits have been stripped off a lot in comparison to citizens.
To make it fair, I propose that PRs who fulfill their NS duties must be accorded the benefits as citizens.
It is loss of income, nonetheless. You start earning 2 years earlier.PNGMK wrote:Why do you always make yourself look like an idiot WD40? 1st Gen PR's who have to do NS are those who became PR's as kids... not as adults. 2 year loss of income no problem to a kid - they live with parents. To be fair Dr Ng response is a little confusing.Wd40 wrote:Then dont be surprised when 2nd gen PRs escape NS, just before the NS age.sundaymorningstaple wrote: They could care less what you propose. It's their ball, their ball park and their rules. You want to be in the tournament, you play their game or you don't play. Simples.
as SMS says,play by their rules or don't playWd40 wrote:[]
It is loss of income, nonetheless. You start earning 2 years earlier.
I know lah, its only for the sake of discussion of fair or unfair. End of the day, we all know the rules and its our own judgement.ecureilx wrote:as SMS says,play by their rules or don't playWd40 wrote:[]
It is loss of income, nonetheless. You start earning 2 years earlier.
I know a PR whose son scooted off to USA (luckily the father became SC)
the kid was reasoning the 2 year loss as his reason to join his mother in US
since green card was harder he enrolled in National Guard and guess what ? he was selected to serve in 'South West Asia' and serve he did
I told him his 2 years here would have been a holiday vs posted in A war zone!!
You work a long time mate , whats with the rush to join the daily grind?Wd40 wrote:It is loss of income, nonetheless. You start earning 2 years earlier.PNGMK wrote:Why do you always make yourself look like an idiot WD40? 1st Gen PR's who have to do NS are those who became PR's as kids... not as adults. 2 year loss of income no problem to a kid - they live with parents. To be fair Dr Ng response is a little confusing.Wd40 wrote: Then dont be surprised when 2nd gen PRs escape NS, just before the NS age.
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