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PR son apply LTVP for mum gets rejected

Postby boywithambitions » Sat, 26 Jul 2014 6:32 pm

Hi locals, expats and experienced professionals here. I am a 21 year old student who just graduated from Temasek Poly this April. I am a Singapore PR. I just turned 21 this early July. According to the government, my mum has to go back after i turn 21. I think she is holding long term social visit pass, one that allows her to accompany me in Singapore. Her previous extension date was given till 4th july, which is my birthday. I guess the government has already set their mind that she has to return to her hometown once i'm 21.

I am troubled by the fact that she can't stay here anymore, i applied LTVP for her and got rejected. I am enlisting for national service on 5th August, and she is my only next of kin. And it certainly doesn't make sense that she has to return, we've being living in Singapore for 12 years. I am servicing the nation and plans to give up my Chinese Citizenship to settle in Singapore.

I really need some help here, i am going to write in to appeal. But should be my point of argument and what can i do/who do i approach to help my mum in this case? Thx!!

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Postby nakatago » Sat, 26 Jul 2014 7:43 pm

You're already legally an adult in Singapore and most countries. Unless your mom intends to be PR/citizen as well (doubtful though that Singapore will let her), you'll have to learn to spend your days without her in the same city.

The Singapore most probably thinks the same; you're an adult and assumedly, grown up as well and don't need your mother to live an adult life.

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Postby sundaymorningstaple » Sat, 26 Jul 2014 8:08 pm

Frankly, you are pissing in the wind. You mother was well well aware when she came here as a Pei Du Mama, that she would only be able to stay here while you were in school and would have to leave as soon as you finished school or reached the age of majority (21). That has happened. Now, her reason for being here is no longer valid. She would not have been able to stay here without your being a full time student in an approved institution. That has now finished. I'm afraid you really don't have any grounds for appeal, truth be known.

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Postby boywithambitions » Sat, 26 Jul 2014 8:32 pm

Thanks for your insightful replies guys. i understand that her 'pei du' permit has served it's purpose. Now that I'm going to the army, she is my ONLY next of kin. Who's gonna take care of the insurance bills, rental, car insurance, road tax blah blah blah? Or do I have to worry about such miscellaneous issues in the army?
Yes I'm an adult now, and my mum's purpose here is not to accompany me to study. We see a future here and would like to build our roots here. She wants to set up her own business here and we are capable of doing that, but the government now is not giving us any chance to do so. My mum is not a tool to benefit my educational purposes, she is my family, and I want to settle in Singapore with my family.

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Postby Mi Amigo » Sun, 27 Jul 2014 3:06 am

boywithambitions wrote:Who's gonna take care of the insurance bills, rental, car insurance, road tax blah blah blah?

Er, that would be you. Welcome to the world of adulthood.

boywithambitions wrote:We see a future here and would like to build our roots here. She wants to set up her own business here and we are capable of doing that, but the government now is not giving us any chance to do so.

I understand your situation, but as has been explained above, none of this should have come as a surprise to you. Don't worry, you'll be fed and taken care of in the army, then you can look for a job and perhaps then you might be able to apply for a LTVP for your mother again. In the meantime, I'd expect that she'll be able to come and visit you from time to time on a SVP, right?

Sorry of the above seems harsh, but life is tough and you need to step up and start making your own way in the world.
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Postby zzm9980 » Sun, 27 Jul 2014 8:21 am

Mi Amigo wrote:
boywithambitions wrote:Who's gonna take care of the insurance bills, rental, car insurance, road tax blah blah blah?

Er, that would be you. Welcome to the world of adulthood.


Sense of entitlement, check. I see he has assimilated well.

Worrying about car insurance and road tax? OP, do you realize how few actual citizens have cars here due to the cost? Obviously you're from a privileged upbringing (by local standards), so figure it the f- out yourself. You're coming across like a whiny entitled brat, the kind no one likes.

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Postby nakatago » Sun, 27 Jul 2014 8:42 am

boywithambitions wrote:Thanks for your insightful replies guys. i understand that her 'pei du' permit has served it's purpose. Now that I'm going to the army, she is my ONLY next of kin. Who's gonna take care of the insurance bills, rental, car insurance, road tax blah blah blah? Or do I have to worry about such miscellaneous issues in the army?



Stricter armies in other countries allow enough leeway for full-time soldiers to take care of personal business.

And Singapore's NS corp is VERY lax.

About being next of kin, I'm sure the army can place calls/send emails or SMS to China.

boywithambitions wrote:Yes I'm an adult now, and my mum's purpose here is not to accompany me to study. We see a future here and would like to build our roots here. She wants to set up her own business here and we are capable of doing that, but the government now is not giving us any chance to do so. My mum is not a tool to benefit my educational purposes, she is my family, and I want to settle in Singapore with my family.


To be frank, Singapore doesn't give a shit. Your mom will have to get PR on her own merits. We've had anecdotes of families applying for PR and not granting it to children or spouses while still granting it to one of the family. Yes, the government can be pretty cold...and they're actually proud of that.

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Postby taxico » Thu, 31 Jul 2014 6:38 pm

boywithambitions wrote:...She wants to set up her own business here and we are capable of doing that, but the government now is not giving us any chance to do so...


she can do so and be employed by her company. look through the business forum to figure out what she needs to do (how to set up properly and most cost-effectively, etc).

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Postby myprhui » Fri, 01 Aug 2014 3:25 am

The "pei du" visas are one of the main source of complaints from Singaporeans. At this moment, I seriously doubt the government will offer your mum any opportunity to stay and they do not really care about your money. I have a female friend from China who owned several condo, her PR application was rejected and later on even her S Pass application was also rejected. She is already back in China.

If you look into this forum, you will find plenty of rich people who have their PRs or other even permits rejected.

Just go and serve your NS. After that get a job and then apply again. Learn to take things one step at a time.

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Postby ecureilx » Fri, 01 Aug 2014 1:49 pm

myprhui wrote: that get a job and then apply again. Learn to take things one step at a time.


wise words ...

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Postby nakatago » Fri, 01 Aug 2014 2:56 pm

myprhui wrote: that get a job and then apply again. Learn to take things one step at a time.


Hopefully, he's not the type who needs to be accompanied by his mother to job interviews.


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